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October 13, 2004 at 4:07 am #2029detn8rParticipant
Recently, I have watched the Michael Moore documentary entitled “Fahrenheit 9/11” and quite frankly was extremely astonished with what I viewed. It’s easy to put bias opinions over matter, but seeing a documentary like Fahrenheit 9/11, is it still healthy to put arrogance in the way of intelligence? I won’t get into details about this movie, because I believe every American, juvenile or not, need to know what your country is NOT doing, and for that matter, doing to cover up for what they didn’t do.
Even though you may not be an American, it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have an opinion. As I’m sure you’re aware, electing a leader of a country, especially for the country that controls the world at their finger tips (and I say that without being bias), affects every single person world wide.
I believe the ignorant should not be allowed to vote. Why? What IS the point? Do you even know WHY you are voting? Is it because someone told you to vote for that specific person? Is it because you’re jumping the bandwagon with fellow friends, co-workers, family? Do you even know what the dictionary defines voting to be? OK, so I may be getting a little too far with that, but I believe it needs to be expressed. Do you either support what your leader does, or do you not? Do you support what they should or should have done, or do you support how they covered their ass after the done was done (example being Bush AFTER 9/11, and Bush on his vacation 2 days before the attack of 9/11).
I personally don’t know a single thing about John Kerry. And I’ve been told by several Americans that they are still debating on whom to vote for. I cannot understand how anyone can compare at this moment, a leader figure to George W. Bush – and if you need assistance accepting that, I strongly urge you to watch Fahrenheit 9/11.
I definitely want someone to explain to me why or what Kerry has done either recently, or in the past for you to reconsider electing him.BUT, for this time my question is simple. Either from your own intelligence, or from the assistance of Michael Moore, do you still support Bush for what he has done, not only to your own country, but to the world? Will or would you re-elect him in November 04?
October 13, 2004 at 4:17 am #36778CharlesMemberSpeaking of ignorance, I hardly consider Michael Moore’s movie (not a documentary) a worthy source to inform me of the failure that led to 9/11.
For some real, no-partisan-spin information on what happened with 9/11…may I suggest the 9/11 Commission Report? I found page 66 especially interesting. 🙂
As for my opinion of John Kerry, the guy is a left-wing nut job from Boston. His 20-year record in the US Senate of voting against weapons systems being used in Afghanistan and Iraq right now is a disaster. Never in the history of the US has any President been elected who has such a weak record on national security, and right now we are at war.
I strongly urge anybody who wants a realistic breakdown of 9/11, to read the 9/11 report. If you do choose to believe Mr. Moore over a bi-partisan committee, then keep sipping the kool aid.
October 13, 2004 at 4:34 am #36775Jeff HesterKeymasterOctober 13, 2004 at 4:47 am #36781gossipingraeMemberI agree with Charles 100% because Senator Kerry is NOT right for America. However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that is why we have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I urge all of you to watch the third and final Presidential Debate on Wednesday, Oct. 13.
There are many reasons why Kerry is not suitable for running this country. Just take a look at his record in office…read the papers, and visit each candidate’s website. If you ask me, Kerry is a bumbling idiot…he starts on one topic then drifts to another. He isn’t consistent…first he votes to pass certain laws, then he votes against them. He is a decorated Vietnam vet, yet when he came back from war, he fled to Canada and protested the war with Jane Fonda…aka Hanoi Jane…now known as one of the biggest traitors of our country.
On the subject of Fahrenheit 9/11, I haven’t seen the film and I don’t want to. Nobody should pick apart our country’s leader, no matter how much you like or dislike them. One single person is in charge of an entire country, and whether one wants to believe it or not, it is a TOUGH job. Not everyone is going to like some of the decisions he makes.
I’m not bashing anyone. I’ll let you know that I do support President Bush, and I have valid reasons to. However, everyone has their own beliefs. That is why it is so important for every United States citizen over the age of 18 to be registered to vote. Now go out there and support your candidate! Remember, there are other people out there that have the same ideas that you do. Cast your vote on November 2!
October 13, 2004 at 5:04 am #36779TigerbladeParticipant“I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.” – that right there sums up Kerry’s stance. he’s got “more waffles than a house of pancakes,” to quote the cartoon i’m sure we’ve all seen.
yes i’m a Bush supporter. no, he may not be the brightest crayon in the box, but he’s still the President of the United States of America, which is not an easy job. he’s done the best he can under the circumstances, and that’s all we can ask. maybe the war in iraq was a good idea, maybe it wasnt, but at least he’s sticking to his convictions and not waffling back and forth…
as for all the complaints about how bad the economy is… guess who’s fault that is? you really think Bush is the one who made the economy crash?? no, that one goes to clinton. 8 years in office affecting economic policy, and when those policies finally take their toll, guess who’s around to take the blame? its happened before, and history repeats itself.
bush all the way!
October 13, 2004 at 5:25 am #36777FanaticMemberBush blew it when he ran up the highest budget deficit EVER! He’s mortgaging our future to finance…. what exactly? A war that most of the world despises us for? Whatever happened to fiscally responsible Republicans?
Kerry is just as bad as Bush, but I’ll vote for him if it lets me send a message to the Bush-ocracy. If it’s a choice between two bad options, I’ll take my chances with a change.
October 13, 2004 at 8:53 am #36776Jeff HesterKeymasterWell as we see it in aussie and this would only be my impression of the drabble we do get over here.
Kerry seems to focus on domestic issues sure its a valid point and Bush inbetween his rhetoric about Iraq over and over again – but most of that it comes across as trying to justify the war. What justification is required ? the facts are NO wmd have been found and he can cry over and over – but proof is in the pudding NIL , NADA. Move on.
Agree or Disagree with the analogy of this methodoligy – its history. Focus on what the Country should stand for weigh up the information or disinformation (as is most likely) and disassocate your personal beliefs as to personality and be informed with whats on offer. If you gather all of this then youll know what is the right , or the better option on the day remember you are talking 4 years here in office not a lifetime.
We have just had elections over here – and you guessed it Howard won. Not over the war but on domestic issues. Health care is the biggest single issue since, and im sure you are no exception, Pathetic – the population is growing the baby boomers are now getting close to retirement age and we dont have the young population to support them. You could argue that they should be self funded but remember that 1 million jobs have been lost in the last 4 years – is that economic balance. How can you support retirees with young population when there are no jobs? Ohio holds the key to this election from what we have seen and read ( dont know how much truth to that is)
The world is changing at a rate we could of only read about in a sci fi book- globalisation is the key to what we all can offer each other. Think it all thru with the information you have on offer.
There comes a time you have to take one step back.
October 14, 2004 at 11:18 pm #36780RabidKittenParticipantI still have to respect Kerry simply for the fact that he doesn’t let his personal beliefs get in the way of his ideas for America. Unlike -some- people *cough*. Like his whole stance on abortion, yeah it’s his personal belief that it shouldn’t be allowed, but he can’t go and tell someone without his personal belief system that they can’t. I have to have a sliver of respect for someone who puts their own beliefs asside for what they believe is the good of a nation. In my opinion it means he’s rather thoughtful and wont completely strike something down just because “I believe this”.
As far as Michael Moore goes…Blegh, he really is one sided, manipulative, doesn’t present the other side of the argument and is very very skewed. Check out “Farenhype 9/11” sometime.
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