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March 31, 2004 at 10:25 pm #10546
shifter
ParticipantThe Federal Court has ruled against a motion which would have allowed the music industry to begin suing individuals who make music available online.
Justice Konrad von Finckenstein ruled Wednesday that the Canadian Recording Industry Association did not prove there was copyright infringement by 29 so-called music uploaders.
He said that downloading a song or making files available in shared directories, like those on Kazaa, does not constitute copyright infringement under the current Canadian law.
No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorised the reproduction of sound recordings. They merely placed personal copies into their shared directories which were accessible by other computer user(s) via a P2P service.
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Source: http://hispeed.rogers.com/news/tech/story.jsp?cid=z033123A
More info : http://p2pnet.net/story/1117
March 31, 2004 at 10:41 pm #82227lazyturbo
MemberYeah, I just read the exact same article. This is awesome, looks like there’s still hope for Kazaa!!…LOL. I know alot of people who stopped downloading/uploading songs and movies from Kazaa because they were scared of being sued. Looks like we can all feel safe…at least, for now.:)
March 31, 2004 at 11:34 pm #82223detn8r
ParticipantAhhhhh… feels great to be Canadian 😉
April 1, 2004 at 7:39 am #82225shifter
ParticipantWhy do the quotes at the end of this article make me feel like this is an April Fools Joke?
Quote:quote:”Wow! I can get married and trade music files?? WOOOT! I’m moving to Canada!” — username: gay married music pirates.Please tell me this is just low-class journalism!
If this is a joke, there’s going to be some upset P2P Canadians!
April 1, 2004 at 3:41 pm #82222detn8r
ParticipantNah, I think someone is trying to be funny. . .
Quote:quote:”I’m truly proud to be Canadian today. Oh, except for that tax on (blank CDs, DVDs, VHS and cassette tapes) and Celine Dion. Yeah, sorry about that” — username: ferratus.April 4, 2004 at 6:14 pm #82221rustedtight
MemberQuote:quote:Originally posted by shifterThe Federal Court has ruled against a motion which would have allowed the music industry to begin suing individuals who make music available online.
Justice Konrad von Finckenstein ruled Wednesday that the Canadian Recording Industry Association did not prove there was copyright infringement by 29 so-called music uploaders.
He said that downloading a song or making files available in shared directories, like those on Kazaa, does not constitute copyright infringement under the current Canadian law.
No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorised the reproduction of sound recordings. They merely placed personal copies into their shared directories which were accessible by other computer user(s) via a P2P service.
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Source: http://hispeed.rogers.com/news/tech/story.jsp?cid=z033123A
More info : http://p2pnet.net/story/1117
Surely copyright infringement is theft regardless of where you live or who interprets the law.
Kazaa has been raided, thr Porche driving CEO is in hiding, she claims to be not more that a figurehead, her house was raided……… none of that sounds like a witch hunt to me. All the profiteering thieves will pay the price. How sad. LOL
GRAB THEM WHILE YOU CAN.April 4, 2004 at 8:12 pm #82226shifter
ParticipantQuote:quote:Originally posted by rustedtightSurely copyright infringement is theft regardless of where you live or who interprets the law.
Kazaa has been raided, thr Porche driving CEO is in hiding, she claims to be not more that a figurehead, her house was raided……… none of that sounds like a witch hunt to me. All the profiteering thieves will pay the price. How sad. LOL
GRAB THEM WHILE YOU CAN.To some its a victory, to others its a loss. Personally, I support anything that will help end the Major Label’s monopoly on the industry.
Why should I support an industry who’s very nature of their operation produces homogenized music designed for specific radio formats and scientifically honed to hit-making models. Artists are signed and promoted based on the opinions of individual A&R executives, not the quality of the music. The major labels use their monopoly of distribution and their control of radio to prevent independent music from competing in the mainstream.
The major label system is the biggest barrier to musicians making money off CDs. Major label artists only start getting their tiny share of royalties (5-10%) once they’ve sold over 500,000 units. Independent musicians can get a bigger cut, but thanks to major label payola they can’t get on the radio and won’t reach a large audience.
All the things the majors do to manipulate the music business cost money. Millions of dollars in payola, 8 figure executive salaries, poor choices of new artists, overpriced studios–this money comes from musicians and fans, but benefits neither. If we cut out this waste, fans will be able to support more musicians while spending less.
A new popular study even goes so far as to try to prove that filesharing actually has little to no affect on music sales. Although I personally doubt its accuracy, it does put a huge dent in the RIAA case against P2P users.
April 19, 2004 at 8:55 pm #82231El Diablo
MemberYea I don’t understand why the hell they wanted to sue Kazaa in the first place. The guy that owns Kazaa has nothing but the software, his site, a bunch of shortcuts on his computer. Nothing else. On top of that, people that have recording software aren’t good quality. For example, you have an mp3 file that you recorded off your CD. It is being shared my other computers, those same people share their downloaded file and so on. The file loses sound quality between transfers thus making the lawsuit invalid. Plus, not a lot of people have really good cd burners, so when you burn your song on your CD it’s going to sound crappy. Or other way around, these people might record their mp3 off of their crappy burnt CD’s.
April 20, 2004 at 5:38 am #82229DangerBoy
MemberQuote:quote:Originally posted by El DiabloFor example, you have an mp3 file that you recorded off your CD. It is being shared my other computers, those same people share their downloaded file and so on. The file loses sound quality between transfers thus making the lawsuit invalid. Plus, not a lot of people have really good cd burners, so when you burn your song on your CD it’s going to sound crappy. Or other way around, these people might record their mp3 off of their crappy burnt CD’s.
OMG man! This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve seen in a while. You obviously know nothing about file transfers and MP3 encoding. First of all, you can transfer an mp3 file (or any file for that matter) as many times as you like, it makes an exact copy. Recording tape to tape on the other hand would produce the results you stated. The quality of your CD burner does not come into play with sound quality, most lower end burners actually produce great CD’s when used with compatible CDR’s (my Burner cost $15 and its the best I’ve ever had). One thing you are somewhat correct on is that most MP3 downloads are lower quality, athough most can’t hear a difference from 128kbs and up. I myself prefer 192 Kbs and am happy with the results.
Please do us all a favor and never post again. Too harsh? Ok, never post an answer again, stick to questions. Its how you learn. [:P]
April 22, 2004 at 6:59 pm #82230El Diablo
MemberI still disagree with you, between high and low quality cd burners, there is a BIG difference.
April 22, 2004 at 7:05 pm #82228dme
MemberLifespan perhaps? and numbed of wasted cds.
Definitely not the recording quality. It’s all digital, you can’t make a low quality cd. Either you make a working copy or you dont.April 22, 2004 at 9:00 pm #82224shifter
ParticipantI think El Diablo needs to find a new source for his information. He’s clearly been misinformed. Lifespan and Coasters are basically all that seperate a cheap burner from an expensive one. All burners are going to give you a few coasters anyway, and lifespans not that big of a deal as long as it last you at least 1.5-2 years. By then you’ll want to upgrade anyway, as the burning speed doubles or triples within this time frame. I could’ve bought an expensive 32x burner, but instead got a cheap 52x burner. Haven’t had any problems yet with it (its been 6 months), just waiting for CDRs to catch up with the burn speed (current max here is 40x).
Anyway, this topic is about File Sharing NOT Cd Burning. Lets try to stay somewhat on topic.
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