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May 16, 2005 at 10:51 pm #5286
Crazy Penguin
MemberTo be honest, i am suprised that neither Red Devil of Martin Bradley have posted about this yet….
But Mr Glazer, an american tycoon has suceeded in buying Man U, achieving the 75% necessary to control the club, and given them a pretty big debt for the first time in there history…
It is a sad day…
So will glazer ruin this pround football club? Or will he be ok?
Express your hope/rage/burning fury here…
May 16, 2005 at 11:18 pm #52997Red Devil
MemberI hadn’t posted anything about this yet because i’m too busy plotting assasination attempts. 😛
I don’t know what to make of this really… I don’t want anyone to be in charge of my club, especially not an outsider who doesn’t understand the sport/club. He and his sons claim to be avid United fans, but they really made a lot of enemies by placing a previous bid on the anniversary of the Munich disaster. Surely real fans would know about that?
United used to be one of the most stable clubs in the world financially. Since Glazer bought the club using a loan, he can transfer millions of pounds of debt to the club. This is just as money is needed for the transfer market to buy a new goalkeeper (at least).Its also feared that he will raise ticket prices to make some money back quickly… Its not exactly cheap as it is, costing about £30 for the worst seats on champions league nights. He may also want to sell some players, and we can’t afford to lose any. He did something similar when he bought an American Football team (I forget the name atm).
Supporters groups are currently trying to get fans to boycot United’s sponsors, not wear the shirt, boycot games etc. I think they’re nieve to believe this will make a difference. Glazer owns Man U now. Theres nothing that can be done about it.
I guess it may not be a complete disaster. If Glazer is willing to put that much money in to buy the club, he probably wants success as well as profit… And Sir Alex Ferguson has decided to stay for the minute… :/
But the fans (including myself) are definetly not happy.
May 17, 2005 at 8:33 am #52993MartinBradley
MemberI’d just not posted anything because I was too incensed to keep the language down to an appropriate level for a public forum 🙂
I’ll be honest, I was at Old Trafford on Thursday night with the others, doing some anti-Glazer protesting. People say he has turned Tampa Bay into some excellent success, but raising ticket prices consistantly over the past five years or so, and one superbowl victory in ten years is hardly comparable to the success that Man Utd have had over the past decade or so.
I for one will not being going to anymore games while Glazer owns the club, as I refuse to put a penny of my money into his pocket to help him pay off the huge debt that we will be under. Effectively, we are paying for him to buy the club. The boycotting of sponsors and merchandise will have an effect, as it will stop Glazer from paying off the debt that will be transferred onto us.
The fact that he referred to Manchester United as a “franchise” shows that he knows absolutely nothing about football, and it’s common belief that he has never set foot inside Old Trafford.
Also, Glazer thinks he can sweeten the deal by offering £20 million a year on transfer budgets. This is not a large amount of money today by top club standards. Look at the ridiculous amount that Chelsea and Real Madrid spend on players. You couldn’t buy a Wayne Rooney, a Rio Ferdinand, and now a Cristiano Ronaldo for £20 million. It sounds good on paper maybe, but put it into practice and its not all that fantastic.
Remember the amount of debt that put Leeds United under? Well, we’ll have more than twice that amount now.
Point maken, for the moment.
May 26, 2005 at 11:41 pm #52998Red Devil
MemberHeh, Martin, you may enjoy this game. I know I did!
http://www.mousebreaker.com/games/malcolm/play.php
Guide Glazer’s parachute jump into Old Trafford. However, if you’re as forgetful as me, opening the parachute may slip your mind… 15 times in a row.
*Splat*
Damn, I forgot again [/sarcasm]
:p
May 27, 2005 at 7:15 am #52994MartinBradley
MemberHaha! Mildly satisfying actually :p
Nice find.
May 27, 2005 at 4:59 pm #52992Jeff Hester
KeymasterI don’t see what’s got your panties all twisted. So what if a US citizen owns a controlling interest in Manchester Unitied? What’s the big deal? Foreign ownership of teams is nothing new, and it doesn’t necessarily mean the end of the world.
Yes, he’ll want to make a buck, but sadly that doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll do things that will please the fans. But then, that’s the sad consequence of professional football becoming big business. It’s no longer a rich-man’s hobby — it’s a corporate enterprise. As such, the team and its fans are subject to the same, impersonal business decisions that effect pretty much anyone involved in a corporation — downsizing, politics, reorganization, cost-cutting, and so on.
Glaser isn’t the cause. Deregulation of the television revenue is. And you can’t put the genie back in the bottle, so be prepared to live with the mess.
May 27, 2005 at 10:44 pm #52995MartinBradley
MemberHave to disagree Jeff. It isn’t the fact that it is an American who is owning the club, it is the amount of debt that he is putting us in.
Glazer turned Tampa Bay from a poorly run club into a mildly successful club. People forget that Man Utd was already a fantastically run club, financially speaking. He did claim that he is an “avid Man Utd supporter”. Surely then he would listen to the fans too?
Tampa Bay have indeed been more successful under Glazer, relatively speaking, but their success does not even compare to the decade of success that United have had under Martin Edwards, David Gill, and Sir Alex.
Edit – I do however, agree that football has become a business!
May 27, 2005 at 10:59 pm #52999chikenkicker
Memberi know nothing about what you are talking about i was just reading this topic, and wanted to ask, when you say football, is that american football, or soccer?
May 27, 2005 at 11:02 pm #52996MartinBradley
MemberSoccer to Americans I suppose. Football to British people.
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