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October 2, 2003 at 1:22 am #12126
Jeff Hester
KeymasterIs there a “best practice” or recommended standard for naming MP3s? Over a year ago I ripped my collection of Genesis CDs to MP3 using AudioGrabber. Apparently I mucked up the ID3 values though, because WinAmp doesn’t recognize the track info.
So a few weeks ago I picked up a Blaupunkt MP3/CD player for my car, and now I’m ready to rip some more of my CDs.
This time I want to do it right, so….
What kind of file naming and folder structure should I use? Is there a standard, de facto or otherwise?
For my existing Genesis MP3s, is there a program that will auto-magically convert the filenames and add the proper ID3 info?
October 2, 2003 at 8:33 am #89823rustedtight
MemberI didn’t realise there was a conflict with ID3 tags… maybe its a problem unique to winamp?
Could the Winamp requirements for ID3 be too restrictive?
How does the problem manifest itself?
Could you not edit the tag using another application to the satisfaction of Winamp?October 2, 2003 at 4:09 pm #89819Jeff Hester
KeymasterI don’t think there was a conflict, I think when I initially ripped the CD, I simply neglected to fill in all the ID3 info. I’ve since learned better, but I’m hoping to find an easy way to update the files without going one by one and entering song title, etc.
I’m still wondering about the best way to handle file names. How about this:
[artist name][album][track #] – [song title].mp3
This uses a combination of folders (for local file management as well as easier sorting on burned CDs) and relies on the ID3 data for your WinAMP/WMP playlists. Is there a recommended standard or format for this? What do most people use?
October 2, 2003 at 4:20 pm #89825IndyTone
MemberHere is how I rip/encode my MP3s, this is a cut and paste from something I posted on a newsgroup where someone was experiencing really bad quality from the MP3s they were ripping. I know that’s not your specific problem, but the programs listed are top notch sonically AND I’ve never once had any problems with the ID3 tags they generate, which are pulled directly from cddb:
A lot of MP3 quality has to do with the method by which you extracted
the data as well as the means by which you encode it–provided you are
creating your own MP3s.For high-quality extraction, I recommend Exact Audio Copy (EAC). It’s
free, and blows many other extractors out of the water as far as
quality goes:http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/eac6.html
After ripping the files off disc, you’ll need to encode them. Right
now, I think the best encoder (and scene standard for the most part)
is LAME 3.96:Here is a tutorial for setting up EAC+Lame:
http://www.ping.be/satcp/eac00.htmIf you decide to do this, once you have EAC and Lame installed do the
following:EAC -> Compression Options -> External Compression -> Additional
Command Line Options: –alt-preset standard -ZIf only everyone would rip MP3s like that. If you’re downloading off a
P2P program, you’re going to mostly get bad rips or low bitrates. If
you go to the newsgroups, you’ll see that most people rip according to
the above standards or higher (at which there’s no point due to the
fact that MP3s are supposed to be ‘compacted’).As far as a program for ‘fixing’ ID3 tags, I suggest Tag and Rename (http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm). Works like a charm.
October 3, 2003 at 2:11 pm #89826coolguyj2
MemberWhy dont you try Musicmatch Jukebox? If your files are named accordingly then its the coolest thing. It can edit ID3 tags of 1000’s of files but will take timr, lolz
but its fast, efficient and THE BEST!!! I am using it for 2 yrs and am fully satisfied with it. Just give it a try. I ried Tag and Rename but vouldnt get a hold of it.October 3, 2003 at 2:57 pm #89822rustedtight
MemberSeems there is no ‘standard’ as such, however there are guidelines to follow should you wish to.
Here is a standard.. of sorts. http://www.egr.uri.edu/~kovacsp/mp3/ID3-Tag.html
here’s a list of many free ID3 tag apps http://www.team-mp3.com/mp3/id3_editor_links.htm
Also czech..
http://freshmeat.net/projects/id3.framework/?topic_id=809
http://www.id3-tagit.de/english/index.htm
http://www.id3.org/Bart said… ‘I will use google before I’……… 😀
October 3, 2003 at 6:33 pm #89818Jeff Hester
KeymasterQuote:quote:Originally posted by rustedtightBart said… ‘I will use google before I’……… 😀
Actually, I did a search on Google for ID3 tag editors, and downloaded one program that looked promising, but never really found what I was looking for there.
So I thought I’d ask for opinions. I’m not using it as a replacement for search, but to supplement it.
Quote:quote:Originally posted by IndyToneHere is how I rip/encode my MP3s…
This is excellent advice. I’ve downloaded and installed EAC and it rocks! The tutorials on how to set it up were exactly what I was looking for.
Tag & Rename is also exactly what I needed to fix up some of my poorly tagged files and get them consistent.
Thanks for the advice. I’m throwing away all the other crap apps I’ve used. :p
October 3, 2003 at 8:28 pm #89821rustedtight
MemberQuote:quote:Originally posted by rustedtightBart said… ‘I will use google before I’………
yeah…. private joke, but Tag & Rename is seriously a sweet piece of software. I also commend its use to the members.
October 3, 2003 at 8:31 pm #89820Fanatic
MemberI’m going with the following file naming scheme:
[artist name][CD name][track number] – [artist name] – [song title].mp3
Of course, with all appropriate ID3 values encoded with the song.
October 3, 2003 at 9:45 pm #89824IndyTone
MemberGlad you found it helpful.
Another thing is that RazorLame is GREAT for decompression (mp3 to wav). If I make a mix for someone and have to use some mp3s, I don’t let Nero et al. handle the decompression. RazorLame is much better at it in the same way that it’s great for compression. Something about the way it handles the data makes it more sonically “true” to the original. After decompressing with RazorLame, I throw the tunes on to a disc and I’m ready to go.
October 6, 2003 at 12:27 am #89817Jeff Hester
KeymasterQuote:quote:Originally posted by rustedtightBart said… ‘I will use google before I’………
I couldn’t resist sharing… 😎
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