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May 5, 2006 at 7:12 pm #22898
detn8r
ParticipantOK, I have some beef… I don’t know exactly when it started, because I don’t use Internet Explorer on a regular basis…. (Opera is simply the best out there) but when I’m at school, I’m basically forced to use it. But as it seems, loading a page on BBB is excruciatingly slow. I don’t know why, but IE wants to load the whole page, both text and images before it shows the content of the page. Even on my school’s connection, wait times can be more than 30 seconds, and even longer at home on my dial up connection.
Does anyone else experience this while on BBB?May 5, 2006 at 7:48 pm #143883Fancy
MemberYour Highness (I think thats how you address the Queen of France) I use IE all the time at school and frequently call up BBB, takes about 2 seconds or less for the full pages to display for me.
May 5, 2006 at 8:15 pm #143884williamlee
MemberI have dsl so may not help much but is instant i click its there but then thats with every site, but of course my service provider is not 2 miles away and in such a small town most people refer to the net as something to pull fish into a boat.
May 5, 2006 at 8:44 pm #143878detn8r
ParticipantPerhaps there is a setting in IE that commands that the page load as a whole before it displays? I thought that this was a possibility, so I wanted to ask if anyone else experienced the problem too.
May 5, 2006 at 9:34 pm #143885williamlee
MemberI found this page that may help resolve your problem
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/using/howto/customizing/clearcache.mspxi hope it helps
May 6, 2006 at 2:00 pm #143881Spike
Memberwilliamlee wrote:found this page that may help resolve your problem
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/…learcache.mspxi hope it helps
No, william. That refers to clearing your internet cache, which are internet files stored on your computer so revisiting websites doesn’t take as long. Det here is referring to when you load a page in IE, the PHP engine renders it all before displaying it, rather than bit by bit.
nater, mine does the same thing. It shows the BBB header, then pauses (to collect and render the page), then all at once it displays the info. Page load times are from 1-3 seconds. It’s probably the internet connection at your school (have you ever used Opera there?), and, obviously, it’s going to be very slow at your house with *gag* Dialup. I don’t think this is alterable, it’s how PHP builds each page.
May 7, 2006 at 1:09 am #143879detn8r
ParticipantDamn! I guess its persuasive time! Thanks spikey.
May 7, 2006 at 3:11 am #143886williamlee
MemberSpike wrote:No, william. That refers to clearing your internet cache, which are internet files stored on your computer so revisiting websites doesn’t take as long.Yes but what the page will tell you is that sometimes this cache sometimes dumps when the browser shuts down and if his Det’s does do this then perhaps changing the settings so it doesn’t will help load his page a little faster.
May 7, 2006 at 5:48 am #143882Spike
Memberwilliamlee wrote:Yes but what the page will tell you is that sometimes this cache sometimes dumps when the browser shuts down and if his Det’s does do this then perhaps changing the settings so it doesn’t will help load his page a little faster.
That is certainly true…to an extent. Caching a page that is dynamically built like a forum page will only save the images (not text). So you are correct in saying that it will reduce page load times, but to what extent is unknown, because we have no way of knowing whether the lag is created when he tries to load the actual PHP page, the images, or if it’s just a slow internet connection.Caching for IE is set to be on by default, and I’m not sure if Opera uses the same settings that you can edit with Windows, or if it has its own connection and cache settings (my guess is it has its own).
May 7, 2006 at 9:53 pm #143880David
ParticipantThere’s quite a bit of misinformation here…
* This is an issue with IE, not PHP or Apache.
* Clearing IE’s cache can help increase the load-times of pages, sometimes the cache gets overwhelmingly large and when the application goes to find said image to insert into the forum page, it has to loop through thousands of other images to find the correct one–that takes a lot of time and would probably hang the rendering process. Det: try disabling images on the browser at school and see how the load times change.PHP and Apache deliver documents exactly the same way per request. The page won’t load in another fashion just because one request comes from the Lynx browser, and another from Firefox. And as far as I know, PHP will return the document to apache once it’s fully parsed, not in some chunked version, the time it would take to chunk it out properly wouldn’t speed up page load times. There is, I think, a buffer identifier built into PHP that would allow this, but it’s intended for other purposes.
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