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June 8, 2005 at 11:52 pm #18647
MrOats
MemberDo you belive in UFO’s or life outside of Earth? I do, and I belive I have seen one before during my childhood. The reason why I comment is because I had a mental “flashback” of when I saw one while I was mowing the lawn today. The flashback was when I was mowing the lawn with my dad. My dad, was cursing at the lawn mower, as it was not starting. It was a real quiet morning around 8:00 AM and the only people I remember seeing outside we my dad and I. I looked up, and saw this small, silver, saucer-like object in the sky. It hovered for about 5 seconds from when I saw it, and It rapidly “zoomed” up into the sky. Most people don’t believe me, but I swore I saw it. Some one who was very spectical about UFO’s belived me after a while, as a similar situation has happened to them. I have also had many dreams about myself seeing UFO’s, commonly 3 of these objects meeting in front of something then dissapearing.
I have only met 1 person who have had these experiences, so please tell me, have you seen/belive UFO’s or life outside of Earth?
June 9, 2005 at 12:02 am #123846Nessa
ParticipantI’m not too sure about UFO’s, but i definately think there is life outside of Earth. My reasoning being…The Milky Way is in a galaxy composed of the nine planets and the sun. Out of all the planets only one(Earth) has been found to contain life. So being that there is MILLIONS of galaxies out there. More than likely there is one exactly like the Milky Way(our galaxy) that contains at least one planet with life. Whether they are more intelligent or less intelligent, i have no idea. Maybe some are more intelligent and they found us, and well that’s the UFO’s people tend to see. Or maybe they are just like us, wondering if “the truth is out there.” I personally have never seen one, just heard of or watched the stories on television. So on life on other planets, i think that’s a definate yes, but on UFO’s, maybe. And those are my thoughts on this subject.
June 9, 2005 at 12:08 am #123838Tigerblade
Participanti don’t particularly believe in UFOs, per se, but i do believe in the possibility of extraterrestrial life. I do believe that it’s possible that intelligent life was created on other planets besides Terra. (Yes, created. not evolved.) however, i dont pretend to imagine that aliens look human, or even humanoid, necessarily, and i dont believe that aliens have to have technology thousands of years beyond ours (e.g. faster-than-light spacecraft, tractor beams, etc). there’s no reason in particular to believe that aliens aren’t at a similar level of technological development as we are – they could be way behind us, way ahead of us, or exactly equal with us, but there’s no need to assume they’re all capable of high-speed galactic travels. even if they were capable of traveling to other planets, i dont see why they’re almost always depicted as being hostile, furtive, fleeting creatures bent on killing humans, maiming livestock, and probing abductees.
June 9, 2005 at 12:08 am #123842AwesomeSauce
ParticipantJune 9, 2005 at 3:33 am #123847m3rcy
Memberthinking of ufo’s just bring me to the thought of ‘why are we here?’
i mean,, if we were made by a big bang, (by scientific theory) whats the chance that another bang happend and formed life on other planets?i guess there could be if i looked at it in a creation point of view.
but.. nah, i don’t believe in ufo’s. there have been supposed sightings for many years (im not doubting you) but why havn’t they came to say hello?
June 9, 2005 at 8:31 am #123840RabidKitten
ParticipantBah, the answer to it all is 42, just remember that.
But really, you’d have to be one arrogant SOB to think that we’re the highest forms of life in the entire universe or whatnot. I mean…we’re the third highest on earth, under mice and dolphins, so obviously we’re not the highest around. That and there’s a possibility that hey, what if there’s life elsewhere, but they’re still stuck on their planet, like we are? Or at least…stuck to our immediate kind of location.*shrug* Course, I don’t particularly believe or really care to believe in UFO’s.
*shrug* Meh. Not anything that’s going to keep me up at night, that is, unless they try to destroy the planet to make an interstellar highway. That might make me a little concerned. But I have my towel right here *sucking on the corner of her towel*
June 9, 2005 at 3:20 pm #123843Crazy Penguin
MemberWell my grandmother and father claim to have seen “something” in the sky way back, but they believe that it was just some unexplained phenomenom… they saw a ball of fire which hovered for a few seconds then zoomed off… personally i think most such events are likely to be optical illusions of some kind….
Logically I believe that it is inconcievable that this insignificant planet is the only place intelligent life has ever evolved, but whether these other intelligent life forms would have been able to travel through interstellar space and visit us strikes me as unlikely….
If you take the light speed limit on travel as absolute (Tigerblade i’m curious you said in the timetravel topic that you don’t think time travel is possible, but you said that you use faster than light speed technology as na example of highly advanced technology, but if you can travel faster than light you can travel through time) then for aliens to have detected us and reach this planet by the present day they would have to be within about 50 light years as an outside limit (as we only started seriously broadcasting radiowaves which could be concievably be detected on another planet 100 years ago), now the chances that there is an intelligent civillisation, within 50 light years, capable of speed of light travel, who have by sheerest chance detected our radio waves almost as soon as they could possibly be detected (which considering the vastness of space and the number of planets is a hit and miss affair in itself) and hence the possibility of intelligent life and then have sent a spacecraft to investigate i find improbable… and for spacecraft to have visited us at even earlier stages even more improbable, so i think it highly unlikley that we are frequently visited by intelligent life.
i mean,, if we were made by a big bang, (by scientific theory) whats the chance that another bang happend and formed life on other planets?
I think your slightly confused there… the big bang created the universe… it didn’t create life…
And since Tigerblade has brought it up i’m going to have to query him on it…
I do believe that it’s possible that intelligent life was created on other planets besides Terra. (Yes, created. not evolved.) however, i dont pretend to imagine that aliens look human, or even humanoid
Since you believe that life was “created” (which though I am sceptical of this view it could concievably be correct, if the creation takes place in the constant improvement of speicies and not in an instant creation) i presume you are taking the bible as your authority for this? and if so surely any intelligent life would be humanoid, seeing as humans were created in the image of god, so god would create other intelligent life in his image would he not? unless humans are supremely special which I doubt….
Ok i’ve changed my quote from tigerblade to include the whole sentence on chickenkikers insistence… not entirely sure it’s necessary but hey…
June 9, 2005 at 4:41 pm #123845chikenkicker
Membercrazy penguin you left out the part where he said “I do believe its possible that…” you just put the part where it says “intelligent life was created on other planets
June 9, 2005 at 7:45 pm #123837MartinBradley
MemberRabidKitten wrote:Bah, the answer to it all is 42, just remember that.Loving the reference there, classy book!
I’m not sure about UFO’s really, but as for life on other planets…I think that there’s a likely possibility that there is. I wouldn’t go as far as saying there is intelligent life like we have on Earth though.
*Ahem* Don’t Panic…
June 10, 2005 at 12:02 am #123839Tigerblade
ParticipantCrazy Penguin wrote:Tigerblade i’m curious you said in the timetravel topic that you don’t think time travel is possible, but you said that you use faster than light speed technology as na example of highly advanced technology, but if you can travel faster than light you can travel through timeread it again. i mention the physics of traveling near light speed or attempting to reach light speed. i never said anything about actually traveling faster than light (FTL for short). in this topic about UFOs, i said that i dont believe aliens have technology like in sci-fi movies, and used a few common examples like FTL drives and tractor beams. in Star Wars it’s hyperspeed, in Star Trek it’s warp speed, in Battlestar Galactica it’s FTL drives. same idea, different names, but i dont think they’re possible. just an example of typical sci-tech.
Quote:we only started seriously broadcasting radiowaves which could be concievably be detected on another planet 100 years ago), now the chances that there is an intelligent civillisation, within 50 light years, capable of speed of light travel, who have by sheerest chance detected our radio waves almost as soon as they could possibly be detected … and then have sent a spacecraft to investigatethink of what kind of radio broadcasts they’re seeing, then. the first radio transmission powerful enough to make it into space was Hitler announcing the start of the Berlin Olympics… they’re seeing that and deciding to pay us a visit?
Quote:I think your slightly confused there… the big bang created the universe… it didn’t create life…i think you’re slightly confused, actually. the big bang is a theory, not a fact. it has not been proven (although technically it can’t necessarily be disproven either, so it’s not an extremely valid theory at that). you could call Creation/Intelligent Design a theory too if you like. either theory has just as much scientific proof backing it (and dont ask me to go into details on that, it’s just too much information for here). dont’ knock mine, i wont knock yours. deal?
Quote:And since Tigerblade has brought it up i’m going to have to query him on it… Since you believe that life was “created” (which though I am sceptical of this view it could concievably be correct, if the creation takes place in the constant improvement of speicies and not in an instant creation) i presume you are taking the bible as your authority for this?yes, but not in and of itself. as i already stated, there’s plenty of scientific evidence backing it.
Quote:and if so surely any intelligent life would be humanoid, seeing as humans were created in the image of god, so god would create other intelligent life in his image would he not?not necessarily. think of it this way. if you were an artist, and wanted to paint a series of portraits, you might choose to make one that resembles yourself, and a few that look nothing like you, would you not? i might even go as far as to say that depending on how you interpret the Bible, it’s not necessarily intended to be a literal anatomical likeness so much as a spiritual likeness.
June 10, 2005 at 11:01 am #123841Qwerty
MemberThe universe is so big, there must be other life out there. UNless we are just one giant fluke.
I doubt they are able to come to us though, the distances are masive,
June 10, 2005 at 1:35 pm #123844Crazy Penguin
Memberbut i dont think they’re possible. just an example of typical sci-tech.
Ok, i was just trying to clarify what you were saying.
think of what kind of radio broadcasts they’re seeing, then. the first radio transmission powerful enough to make it into space was Hitler announcing the start of the Berlin Olympics… they’re seeing that and deciding to pay us a visit?
Indeed it’s a scary thought…
i think you’re slightly confused, actually. the big bang is a theory, not a fact.
Quite right, i was just correcting m3rcy’s view of the theory, which is that the big bang created life, which clearly isn’t the big bang theory at all.
either theory has just as much scientific proof backing it (and dont ask me to go into details on that, it’s just too much information for here). dont’ knock mine, i wont knock yours. deal?
Yes it’s definitly off-topic here, though i wouldnt mind going into a discussion about it elsewhere, theories after all are to be debated.
depending on how you interpret the Bible, it’s not necessarily intended to be a literal anatomical likeness so much as a spiritual likeness
Actually on reflection that’s probably much more likely…
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