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October 12, 2005 at 1:25 am #20265
Jeff Hester
KeymasterMicrosoft and Yahoo have reached an agreement that will link their instant messaging networks, allowing MSN Messenger to exchange text and voice messages with Yahoo Messenger users, and vice versus.
According to the source, the deal includes the exchange of text and voice messages. An announcement is expected from both companies on Wednesday.
This deal is a landmark in interoperability. While a number of third-party instant messaging programs such as Trillian offer multi-network support, they still don’t allow interoperability.
Of course, businesses running Microsoft Live Communications Server (LCS) have had the ability to interoperate for several months, but this level of interoperability has never been available to consumers.
Additional Reports
- Yahoo, Microsoft Close to IM Pact – ZDnet
- Microsoft, Yahoo Reach Instant Messaging Deal – Seattle P-I
- Microsoft and Yahoo to link IM networks – ITworld.com
- Microsoft and Yahoo in instant messaging alliance – FT.com
- Official Press Release
October 12, 2005 at 5:32 am #131563Eagle_Kiwi
MemberFascinating.
Many ramifications both good and bad I guess.I await “Wednesday” (which means *I* have to wait till Thursday!) AGOG.
October 12, 2005 at 11:03 am #131562Hasan
MemberThats an excellent news.
Its Wednesday here already I guess I’ll have to wait till Thursday.
I wish to see it implemented ASAP.October 12, 2005 at 12:37 pm #131558Jeff Hester
KeymasterMicrosoft, AOL and Yahoo are all running scared in the face of Google. Yes, Google Talk is new, but they are probably the only company capable of truly threatening the Big Three in terms of IM market share.
WIth Microsoft and Yahoo linking their IM networks, together they command about 44% of the market (Radicatti Group). This strengthens their position and helps them retain market share.
This deal is a good thing for consumers. No, you won’t get all the same bells and whistles between the two instant messengers; to play pool you’ll need Yahoo! Messenger on both ends. But it does mark a positive move. If they are able to add AIM interoperability to the mix, Google Talk becomes marginalized.
October 12, 2005 at 12:54 pm #131557Jeff Hester
KeymasterWow this is very interesting news. This will really give both yahoo and msn a boost in popularity. I personally never use AIM and I do not know what person in their right mind would want to download their software. Of course they can always use it through Trillian but regardless MSN and Yahoo Messenger have both given users more options than AIM. I am sort of hoping this new “merge” will steal’s AIM’s thunder in the near future. I think instant messengers will be happy with being able to either have the yahoo or msn interface as their choice in chatting.
October 12, 2005 at 1:42 pm #131564Eagle_Kiwi
MemberI feel that BBB overrates GoogleTalk hugely.
Most articles seem to agree it’s in order to tackle AIM, in front of them, not any little new guy somewhere on a distant horizon.
Though I treat reports that AIM IS #1 with some caution – that is only for the U.S. market – I doubt if it’s #1 worldwide.
Anyway, gosh, I hope YM might increase the 300-buddy limit, if we are now going to include MSN !?
October 12, 2005 at 6:39 pm #131559Jeff Hester
KeymasterI don’t think you can overrate Google. They have the resources to become a formidable force in the IM world. I don’t think MSN and Yahoo banded together to battle AOL. They have both been steadily grabbing market share from AOL. They ARE worried about Google.
Google wisely went with an open-standards IM protocol that encourages the use of other compatibile instant messengers (pretty much any Jabber-compatible client). They will win over customers by the millions, just as they did with Gmail. Microsoft, Yahoo and AOL are all afraid of Google, as they should be.
October 13, 2005 at 2:42 am #131561herberg2
MemberAlthough Google may be a power in the future — I’m not sure it was because of Google Talk that prompted the Yahoo/MSN partnership. Given AIM’s overwhelming popularity (particularly with younger people) in the US as well as ICQ’s popularity in other area’s of the world, they seem to be the clear targets.
Google Talk’s promise will hopefully be realized in the future — particularly if they can offer the upper tier features in an open source, yet interoperable fashion, like Voice. Right now, I would have to agree that in it’s current format, Google is the “stone-age of instant messaging”, as one reviewer put it.
My biggest gripe with Google Talk is that it’s open-source … in a kind of closed-source way. I can almost overlook the having to have a Gmail account requirement, even though it smells a lot like MSN, but to not even be able to add my other Jabber buddies to it seems to be just as proprietary and locked-in as any other messengers. When I can move my other Jabber contacts to Google Talk without making them get Gmail accounts to do so — then we’ll have a truly open-source model of a messenger.
October 13, 2005 at 5:01 am #131565cla007
MemberThis is a good move in my oppinoin. With the looks of what is in store with aim triton http://www.aim.com/triton/demo.html and google’s latest foray into the software market “Google Talk” this is a good move on MSN and Yahoo’s part to round up their number 2 and 3 spot in the im members percentege world before Aim tries to take it back over and Google tries to get its more up and comming younger fans over into the IM world. As, a fan of both the Yahoo brand and MSN brand I can’t wait to see this happen.
October 15, 2005 at 2:04 pm #131560Jeff Hester
KeymasterIf you don’t think Google Talk matters, you’re wrong. You might be interested in checking out the prediction market experiment being run by Yahoo and O’Reilly. It uses the same “intelligence of crowds” theory popularized by James Surowieki in his book The Wisdom of Crowds.
Prediction markets work similarly to stock markets, but work on trends. The goal is to predict the future value of a “thing” — an idea, a product, a service — whatever.
When you look at the current chart for the IM market, you’ll see that Google Talk is currently doing better than all of the other IM programs.
Of course, predictive markets are just that — predictive. They are not absolute, and anything can happen. But it is a measure of how seriously people are taking Google Talk and you can bet that AOL, MSN and Yahoo are all concerned about what Google will do.
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