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September 10, 2007 at 5:56 pm #27616
bakdoor
MemberHello. Using ver 8.1.0.421 and the darn thing reboots itself every 5 to 10 minutes. Driving me nuts. Only time it doesn’t is when I’m in a conversation with someone. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
TomSeptember 10, 2007 at 7:31 pm #164074nickp001
MemberI’m having the same problem. I’ve timed it and it disconnects and reconnects exactly every 10 minutes like clockwork. I originally suspected it was my virus protection app, but after disabling it, I continued to experience the same problem. I’ve tried changing my connection settings to firewall with no proxie, but I can’t connect at all with that configuration. Any ideas what would cause a disconnect every 10 minutes?
September 10, 2007 at 8:00 pm #164089bakdoor
MemberIts so annoying, that I have gone to the web based ver of YIM. Has to be annoying to all my contacts to see me log off then log on again almost immediately.
Anybody?September 10, 2007 at 10:12 pm #164081Doris Kenney
ParticipantI’m using 8.1.0.421 and have been since last week. I’ve had no problems with it. Mine is set to “no proxies”(as other choices affect the ability for voice chat). I’ve left it idle for long periods and had no trouble with disconnections at all. I’m assuming it was working fine prior to your update to the most recent build?
There have been random times when YH does seem to disconnect and reconnect a lot. It’s generally an issue with their servers. Typically if you wait – it will sort itself out without any action on your part (tho it may take several days). I find it curious you don’t have the problem when you’re in a conversation though. Typically I find my contacts having issues have them in conversation and voice as well, as have I during periods when I’ve experienced this.
I did find one thing that helped me and I’ve not had much trouble since but it may or may not apply to you. I was using Windows Firewall AND my router had a firewall as well. Since having 2 firewalls can cause conflicts, I disabled Windows Firewall and went with only the router firewall. I will caution you however, you should NEVER be without a firewall. Do not disable one on your machine if it’s your only one. But if you have one on a router as well, you might give it a shot. It could have been conincidental but my problems seemed to stop quite awhile ago when I did this (both on YH and WLM). I’ve done this on 2 other machines since and have never had disconnection problems at all on them (other than a rare glitch but that happens maybe once every couple of months at worst.)
Other than trying no proxies and making sure the connection speed and country are set correctly in you preferences I’m afraid I don’t really have much help to offer other than to wait a few days and see if it resolves. Good luck and let us know how it’s going. I’ll ask around and see if I can come up with any other possibilites for you.
-Doris-
September 11, 2007 at 10:48 am #164090bakdoor
Member@patndoris 222782 wrote:
Other than trying no proxies and making sure the connection speed and country are set correctly in you preferences I’m afraid I don’t really have much help to offer other than to wait a few days and see if it resolves. Good luck and let us know how it’s going. I’ll ask around and see if I can come up with any other possibilites for you.
-Doris-
Thanks for the response. I do have my preferences set correctly and i am not using 2 firewalls. I did send a request for with my logs but never received a response.
September 11, 2007 at 12:01 pm #164082Doris Kenney
ParticipantWell if it was working correctly before, and you really think it’s related to the upgrade, you could try downgrading to a previous version.
Filehippo Download Yahoo! Messenger 8.1.0.421 – filehippo.com has the previous versions. If you do this, you’ll need to remove the current version from add/remove programs first. Then go grab the last one you know was working and see what happens. It’s not going to hurt anything, other than you’ll need to reinstall any plugins you may be using. If the problem persists you can always upgrade to the current version again.
But it’s still likely related to the YH servers. It will probably just clear up on it’s own. But how long it will take is hard to say, and I certainly understand how annoying it is when it happens. Good luck and please let us know what you decide to do and if it helps.
-Doris-
September 11, 2007 at 2:53 pm #164075nickp001
MemberI had the previous version installed and upgraded to the latest version in hopes that it would solve my problem. No luck.
I am using the Windows firewall only. I’ve tried turning off my firewall and my security suite and that didn’t solve the problem.
The strange thing is that it’s happening in exactly 10 minute intervals. There must by some kind of a process that’s running every 10 minutes and killing my connection. Maybe I need to look at the programs that are running in the background.
Frustrating would be an understatement.
September 11, 2007 at 8:43 pm #164076nickp001
MemberOK, I’ve tried killing all of the non-essential background programs, I uninstalled Messenger and re-installed it and I’m still getting the same problem.
Bakdoor, are you, by any chance, running on a wireless connection or through an access point/router? If so, what brand and model is your router and what version of the firmware are you on?
September 11, 2007 at 9:56 pm #164083Doris Kenney
ParticipantIf you go to Control Panel / Administrative Tools you should be able to look at your Event Log to see what’s been going on. Can you let me know if there’s anything showing up in there?
-Doris-September 11, 2007 at 10:35 pm #164077nickp001
MemberHi Doris,
Nope, nothing in the event log. This is mind boggling. I found several similar complaints in the LinkSys forums and several people suggested setting port triggering and re-adjusting the MTU to something below 1400. That also didn’t solve the problem. I’m still thinking it has something to do with either my wireless connection or my router, but I really have no idea.
Thanks for your help,
NickSeptember 11, 2007 at 11:59 pm #164084Doris Kenney
ParticipantAre you using a Linksys router? If so- it probably has a built in firewall. In which event I would suggest leaving Windows Firewall off, at least until this is fixed. I know this will sound odd, but also go to the internet page for your router, and confirm the date and time for the router are the same as for your computer. If they don’t match up sometimes strange things happen. I know when I have a power failure the time zone seems to reset to an incorrect one.
I’m using a Linksys router and I’m not having any trouble with it – but different models function differently.But let’s also take a step back for a moment. Did you ever have a version of YH that did NOT have this problem on this machine? If so, how long ago and what has changed since then? Is the router new? Did anything in you basic setup change since the time it was functioning? Let’s see if we can narrow this down.
One other thing to keep in mind with wireless. There can be interference to the signal. You could change to a different channel and be sure your login is WEP. Perhaps you’re getting “bumped” by something outside your personal network. Cheap cordless phones, microwave ovens and other people’s wireless can all cause problems. I had a problem briefly where a neighbor’s wireless would immediately kick me off mine when my machine detected 2 signals. Perhaps next time it happens take a quick glance to see if all of a sudden you see an unfamiliar network as being available.
You can take a peek at the other logs in admin tools and just see if anything pops out at you. There are all kinds of system processing running all the time, perhaps we can find one of those as the culprit but you’re going to need to look for something that’s happening all the time obviously, the best time to check would be right after it does it when you know the time to look for.
-Doris-
September 12, 2007 at 1:23 am #164078nickp001
MemberI am using a LinkSys router. I have already tried turning off the Windows Firewall and that didn’t fix the problem. My router doesn’t seem to have a firewall built in, although I should look further into it. But I don’t see any firewall configuration settings in the router configuration pages.
I’ve confirmed that the router time and daylight savings settings are correct.
Prior to this happening, I had Vista installed. I wasn’t happy with it so a couple of weeks ago I re-installed everything and went back to XP SP2. That is when I started having the problem. I wasn’t using Yahoo IM when I had Vista installed, so I really don’t know if it worked then or not. Now I wish that I had at least tried it.
I understand what you’re saying about the whole wireless thing, but I don’t think that’s the case. I have an excellent signal almost always. I keep getting booted in exactly 10 minute intervals. It’s like clockwork. And like Bakdoor said, if I’m chatting, no problem, I can stay on all day. But when I’m idle, every ten minutes I get booted. Also, Microsoft Messenger works just fine without any disconnects.
Thanks again for your help. I’m one of those people that won’t give up until I find the problem. The funny thing is that I’ve worked in the software industry for almost 12 years and I can’t figure out something that, on the surface, appears to be so simple.
September 12, 2007 at 2:09 am #164085Doris Kenney
ParticipantOK….leave Windows Firewall on….I agree…best course of action. And in case you hadn’t figured it out…I’m not about to give up at this point either LOL!!
Knowing you reinstalled XP does help me a bit. I have both Vista and XP machines successfully running YH messenger just now so I’m going to go look at some of the logs in my admin tools….I recall looking there when I was having a problem (of some sort) and finding something (can’t remember what) that made some sense at the time…but I wont know it until I see it.
And yes, you’re probably right – it probably is something quite simple but we just have to pinpoint it. Let me check it out and I’ll get something back as quickly as possible. (Even if I don’t find anything I’ll let you know that as well.) Be patient here….we’ll get it worked out.
-Doris-
September 12, 2007 at 2:47 am #164086Doris Kenney
ParticipantA couple of questions…
1. I know you’re wireless…are you on a laptop or a desktop?
2. When you say you can chat and have no problems but when you’re idle it drops….are you actually using the computer when YH cuts out or is the system idle as a whole?
3. Can you confirm if it’s JUST YH that drops or if it’s your whole internet connection?I have a potential possibility and this will help me decide if we should head there, or if it’s not worth considering. I just don’t want to go throwing out ideas and we start tweaking things that aren’t broken and end up making the situation worse, so please be patient. I may have more questions but these will help me out a great deal.
-Doris-
There’s a method to my madness here so please hang in there with me!
September 12, 2007 at 2:35 pm #164079nickp001
MemberHi Doris,
I really do appreciate your help on this.
To answer your questions:
Yes, this is in fact a laptop that I’m having the problem with. I have another laptop that I think I’ll try it on. I’ll also try it on my wife’s desktop and see what happens.
As far as not having a problem while chatting, I can be on the computer performing normal tasks and logged on to Yahoo IM, but not doing anything with it and Yahoo will sign me off and right back on. In other words, Yahoo is idle, but my computer isn’t.
When it happens, I appear to still have my normal wireless connection and internet access, Microsoft Messenger stays signed on, and Outlook appears to be connected and receiving email. As far as I can tell, it’s just Yahoo that has the problem.
Are there any specific logs that you can suggest I look at? Like I said before, the Windows Event Viewer shows absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.
I really hate wasting your time with this, but it’s good to know that there’s people out there so willing to help.
Nick
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