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direct connections makes it easier and faster for ur IM to send and recieve messages without getting lagged…. what u should be concerned about is NOT ur location isp or whatever…. people now a days can spoof anything. So now just make sure that u run a Firewall (Windows XP has a built-in firewall but u have to activate it) and get a Anti Virus softaware example: Norton Anti Virus or Mcafee. Dont blame people when u dont know how to secure urself online.
Good or Bad everyone still has his own habbits!Spoofing IP addresses over TCP/IP is no easy thing. Only the most *l33t* can do so. I can’t, and I never will be able to. But, you’re still right. If you’re direct connecting to a friend, there is no need to worry about making your IP address available to them unless, of course, your friend is a script kiddie of sorts. *looks at username of above….* Right.
Zlink123 well if u are behind a firewall… i think it would be hard or u could say very hard to do something… BTW it depends on what kind of guy are u and whom are your friends i guess, but still having a firewall with the correct setting will boost ur security upto 90%.. if not 100%
A firewall won’t block someones ability to get your IP address (via use of the netstat utility) after you have direct connected to them. When you direct connect, you authorize this connection, so unless your firewall is set to block these connections entirely, it won’t help in this situation…note that if your firewall is set to block direct connecting completely, you won’t be able to direct connect. Even if you start it.
Although, I will, once again, agree that a firewall is an incredibly good idea. Not for hiding yourself, but for attempting to prevent unauthorized connctions in to (and out of) your computer.
yes, thats exactly what it is, a direct connection disregarding the firewall… i checked open connections while directly connected to someone and saw their ip address… hehehe
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Zlink123A firewall won’t block someones ability to get your IP address (via use of the netstat utility) after you have direct connected to them. When you direct connect, you authorize this connection, so unless your firewall is set to block these connections entirely, it won’t help in this situation…note that if your firewall is set to block direct connecting completely, you won’t be able to direct connect. Even if you start it.
Although, I will, once again, agree that a firewall is an incredibly good idea. Not for hiding yourself, but for attempting to prevent unauthorized connctions in to (and out of) your computer.
omg did u even bother to undrestand the POINT! having a firewall wont HIDE ur IP address!!!!! do u think that a CCNA certified wont know that! lol u make me wanna PUKE! man what i said that if u have a firewall u dont have to worry about ur IP bieng exposed cause if u set the firewall settings correctly then if will block alot of lame attempts… so why bother! and DONT post unless u know what u are talking about
A Cisco Certified Network Associate who recommends to use the firewall that comes with Windows XP? Don’t make me laugh.
Quote:quote:Originally posted by DoSpeople now a days can spoof anything
Apparently you need to go back to CCNA 1, Networking Basics. Any direct connection made from or to a host can be traced or monitored.
Quote:quote:Originally posted by DoSso why bother! and DONT post unless u know what u are talking about
Guess what, I do know what I’m talking about. Now realize one thing. What good are you as a network administrator if you do not have the patience to explain something to the users of your network?
The fact that you haven’t simply suggested to be careful which files you open amuses me.
The fact that you haven’t suggested the use of a router surprises me.
The fact that you type as if you have to catch the bus in three minutes worries me.
The fact that you treat other users with zero respect bothers me.Drop the attitude towards other members here, ok?
Quote:Originally posted by DJHyperbyteA Cisco Certified Network Associate who recommends to use the firewall that comes with Windows XP? Don’t make me laugh.
i didnt recommend that! i recommend this firewall for new users, the ones that never used a firewall before! i mentioned it to the people that dont want to install a firewall… the built in firewall is good, and it will be much better in the next WinXp Service Pack 2. they are working on it. And besides if u know how to setup the rules correctly then it would be good enough standard rules are not that good but still they are better than nothing…..
about a router u dont need one, a firewall is enough for 1 user…
1 more thing tho…
THE FACT that if i mentioned a router without mentioning a encryption tunnel might worry u
l0o0l
We are not talking about a bank here man… just a normal PERSONAL computer, and discussing instant messengers
*About not openning unknown files … what does this have to do the topics subject l0o0l.Quote:quote:Originally posted by DoSthe built in firewall is good
To speak in your own words: l0o0l
Moderator, please (re)move this thread. It’s
a) full of strange advice from a script kiddie
b) posted in the wrong area of the forum (CCNA huh? :))
c) almost unreadableQuote:quote:Drop the attitude towards other members here, ok?Please take your own advise.
If you are unable to do so then question your reason for being a moderator here…
I believe it is not to insult anyone, a command of simple english would suffice to make your point.
Which was?Quote:quote:Originally posted by dainbramageI believe it is not to insult anyone
I didn’t insult DoS at all. Nowhere I said that “DoS is …”. I am simply annoyed by the attitude they put towards other members, so I reflect it. “I am a CCNA don’t try to tell me things omfg” and “l0o0l wtf have you even understood the point?” It is not wise to treat people like that, especially not when you are new to a forum. Why? Because you’ll lose all respect quick.
Quote:quote:Originally posted by dainbramagea command of simple english would suffice to make your point. Which was?
You quoted it.
This thread makes some good points, I’ll try to sum them up and filter them out from the attacks. (attacking a person here gets us nowhere, and causes more attacks in retaliation)
1. “direct connections makes it easier and faster for ur IM to send and recieve messages without getting lagged” — True, direct connections open one TCP connection directly between you and the person you are chatting with, allowing for your messages to be sent directly to them, and not having to be sent to a server and then sent to the reciever. (server connecting to both users)
2. A direct connection makes it almost guarteed that the user you are connected to could get your IP. (Your computers connect together using the IP addresses). For most getting someones IP allows you to do nothing special, except maybe trace to an approximate location based on the ISP. With a proper firewall and AntiVirus installed, this “will boost your security up to 90%.. if not 100%”. The AntiVirus being a precation incase any virus gets set to you, while the firewall will stop your system from being accessed. The firewall does not stop your IP address from being gotten in the first place from a direct connect (you still have to direct connect through some open port). It will stop attempted attacks on your system.
This pretty much sums up everything, along with a few comments of my own. If you want a shorter summary ;). Basically, You dont need to try to conseal your IP address, in most cases it cant be done anyways, but in the end it does not matter as long as you have adaquite protection you will be *safe* against attacks. And on the IM part, you can feel free to use direct connections when possible inorder to increase the speed of your IMs.
Hope this helps clear up the yelling;) Keep it nice guys….
Dainbramage,
thanks for trying to undrestand me i really appriciate it…
Sathallrin,
thank you very much for the wonderful post atleast now i feel that someone undrestood me… thanx for the nice points u mentioned u made it easier to undrestand too….
Thanx all of the nice posts…
DJHyperbyte.
as for u my friend it doesnt mean u are right even if u are a moderator….
and about:
“I am a CCNA don’t try to tell me things omfg”
i never said this my friend?? and as u mentioned it, yeah just to rest ur thoughts i am NOT a Script Kiddie… and i have no problems acting like one to someone who is very rude….I guess the points are cleared now… thanx to Sathallrin for making them clearer
Mod’s (Topic Closed) 😛Quote:quote:Originally posted by DoSi never said this my friend??
“do u think that a CCNA certified wont know that! lol u make me wanna PUKE!”
Quote:quote:Originally posted by DoSi am NOT a Script Kiddie… and i have no problems acting like one
That’s what they call defeating your own statement by adding too much info.
Either way, enough said. Let’s stop this pointless argument.
Still, I’m gonna have to agree with you on at least one thing. Good post, Sathallrin. 🙂
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