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Quote:quote:Originally posted by JeffQuote:quote:Originally posted by Lana
Yep, it’s official… neither Trillian nor MSN can garuntee that Trillian users will be able to connect to MSN after October 15th…
Where did you hear that “it’s official?” From everything I’ve read, Trillian Pro 2.0 already does support the new protocol and is compatible. As for whether Cerulean Studios has a license with Microsoft or not, I cannot say. But if it’s working now (as Trillian Pro 2.0 is… I’m running it), it should still be working after October 15th. Trillian Pro 2.0 is already using the newer MSN protocol, so if you have it, MSN will continue to work for you after the 15th.
That’s not to say that if CS and MS can’t come to an agreement, CS wouldn’t be forced to remove MSN support from a future version of Trillian, but if you have a working version now, just don’t upgrade and it would continue to work. The only way Microsoft could prevent 2.0 from working with MSN is if they change the protocol again and prevent CS from updating their software to support it (presumably through legal measures).
Hi Jeff,
By official I was referring to the comments by Microsoft in the many articles that have been published and from the answer that I received via the support ticket feature via Trillian Pro just before my subscription ran out the other day, just like yours: I asked: “Wed Sep 10 21:00:28 2003]:Dear Cerulean Studios, I would greatly appreciate a response to the
following questions please:
2. Can Cerulean Studios garuntee that Trillian .74, Trillian Pro 1.0,
and Trillian 2.0 version users will be able to connect to MSN after
October 15th, 2003? Please include the answer for each version
respectively. Thank you in advance for your answer…
and the answer could not confirm that… It merely stated that:” We are working with Microsoft right now. When more news is available we will post it on the website.” If they knew that connection was not going to be a problem I would think that they would have said so… and “working with” indicates that the issue has not yet been resolved… it goes beyond needing/having the appropriate protocol… Especially now that CS charges for Trillian Pro there are definite legalities invovled…Wed Sep 10 21:00:28 2003]:
> Dear Cerulean Studios, I would greatly appreciate a response to the
> following questions please:
> 2. Can Cerulean Studios garuntee that Trillian .74, Trillian Pro 1.0,
> and Trillian 2.0 version users will be able to connect to MSN after
> October 15th, 2003? Please include the answer for each version
> respectively. Thank you in advance for your answer…
>Quote:quote:Originally posted by LadyshellbellI’m sure some of you all ready know this. However just in case I thought I’d pass it along. I went into trillian and this is what it said about MSN mess
Hi Folks,
As many you have read recently, MSN has decided to no longer support older versions of their clients. Within their announcement, they mention that some third party applications may be affected. Trillian Pro 2.0, which is currently in beta, supports the latest and greatest MSN protocols. The free version of Trillian will be updated in time to reflect the new protocol as well. If we hear anything from Microsoft directly, or find out any more information, we will be sure to let you know first.
Thank you all for your support!
Hope this helps out some people.
Take care Shell
That announcements does a great job of explaining the protocol that it will be necessary for all users, individuals and third party client users alike, to upgrade to but it doesn’t really distinguish the other issue that affects only third party client users. The issue of a contractual agreement between third party clients and Microsoft in order for third parties to continue to connect to MSN after October 15th… One can only hope that Trillian and Microsoft can come to an agreement and that if the other major IM clients (Yahoo and ICQ) go the same route that the same can be said of those agreements… As noted elesewhere, Microsoft has hinted at monetary compensation and that could spell trouble as it would only be logical that all the IM clients would want the same…
Quote:quote:Originally posted by carbonizeMy main question is that seeing how Trillian now calls home to check your username and password what happens once your subscription ends?
It seems that most users assumed that the phone home feature wouldn’t be a part of the final release… And are most unhappy that it has remained… I guess I can see their point
Yep, it’s official… neither Trillian nor MSN can garuntee that Trillian users will be able to connect to MSN after October 15th… Interesting when you consider that Trillian’s paid versions come with a “NO REFUNDS for any reason, including failure to connect” policy! I hope that any individuals who are considering the purchase of Trillian’s new release are aware of the risk that they are taking… What’s more, is that Yahoo and ICQ will likely and logically follow suit and may expect monetary compensation from third party IM clients as well. A failure to connect to 2-3 clients could render Trillian useless…
Add to the above, the fact that people who do not renew their Trillian subscriptions will end up paying less for the same product over the long run, than those who do keep paying to renew their subscriptions/memberships and you can see how Trillian’s pay scale works against it… And speaking of working against itself… Trillian boasts over 11 million downloads and Microsoft is considering third party IM clients individually and is assessing it’s likely user base as a defining criteria… The more Trillian users there are the more it may cost Trillian’s developers to maintain the ability to connect to MSN and ironically the more likey it will be that Cerulean Studios may find it necessary to decline to accept Microsofts terms and conditions for the right to connect and that could leave its users out in the cold…
