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hello everone
this id that you see has found its way on to my windows live messenger only in the back part of in the privacy of the settings that this id pop in one day back in july of 2009 and meny time i had first delete the id then i put it in the block list and meny time even with the id in the block list i had found the same id in the allow list and had to put it back into the block list meny time and i have sent if over 50 reports on the matter to microsoft in all the ways i could find to report this id and all they keep telling me is that this id has to do with the spim stuff that is going on but when i ask why has this id not been deleted i get no answer from them on it so i am trying oter way to try and get help with the matter so if any one can help with a way to get this id off my account and some accounts of my friends please help with some thing on it
A contact being added to your list, and being moved from the blocked to allow list is not the typical kind of “spam” that happens.
I would first suggest you do a full anti-virus scan with up to date definitions, as well as a quick scan with Malwarebytes. After you have ensured you don’t have any worms or trojans on your machine, change the password on your account.
After you have done these things, you can again try to block and delete the contact.
Also, in the few cases I was able to track down with this ID the user had been added more than once and was appearing in both the allow and block list. Double check to ensure any and all cases of this ID are on the block list.
A contact being added to your list, and being moved from the blocked to allow list is not the typical kind of “spam” that happens.
ok i never said it was spam i said it was spim and with this id you would have to deal with it your self to know what i am dealing with and this has been going on sence last july of finding this id in both the block and allow list at the same time anf it has happen meny time on me and i had reported it to windows live messenger abuse and to the spam and spim services and they all keep just pushing me off on some one else
I would first suggest you do a full anti-virus scan with up to date definitions, as well as a quick scan with Malwarebytes. After you have ensured you don’t have any worms or trojans on your machine, change the password on your account.
i have done all of this several time and i even went one step more i change my windows user account and then after that i went as far as i did a full system recover back to the last time i did a full formate on my pc back in 2008 and still this id just keeps doing its thing of adding it self to the allow list even tho it is in the block list and this id is on the account and i know this because i have it on the account on my home pc and it shows on my work pc and it also shows up on 2 friends pc
After you have done these things, you can again try to block and delete the contact.
ok and i stll have tried this like 10 times and still it comes backAlso, in the few cases I was able to track down with this ID the user had been added more than once and was appearing in both the allow and block list. Double check to ensure any and all cases of this ID are on the block list. ok
ok i have tried that and i even google and yahoo and bing the id and a lot of crap does come up on this id of people have issue with this id and still windows live messenger just gives a statement of we are working on it because it is a type of S P I M NOT SPAM
Spim is just spam delivered through the instant messaging.
Your contact list is stored on the WLM servers. The only reason I even suggested scans on your system were to ensure you didn’t have any backdoor trojans/keyloggers tracking your keystrokes.
Your Windows user account has nothing to do with this. It is the password on your Live ID that needs to be changed prior to trying to block the ID again. If you have done that, I’m sorry for any confusion, but your response seemed to indicate you have focused most of your efforts on your computer and not your Live ID account.
This type of thing can happen when you either click a fraudulent link, or when your auto accept all friend invitations. You might also want to check your security settings. If you use any third party programs like Plus! you should ensure they are set to never auto accept any requests either.
Are you aware of anything other than the id showing on your contact list? Aside from being annoying to you is it doing anything destructive that you are aware of?
patndoris;247224 wrote:Spim is just spam delivered through the instant messaging.yes i though of that too and i had did scans after scans and found not a thing and that is when i went for the reformate ok
Your contact list is stored on the WLM servers. The only reason I even suggested scans on your system were to ensure you didn’t have any backdoor trojans/keyloggers tracking your keystrokes.Your Windows user account has nothing to do with this.
O im sorry but it does have ever thing to do with this and no it is not the password because you and ever one else might think this is dumm of me to do but what i do is once a week i go to my wife work or to my nabers pc and i go into my account and chang the password i do this just for the saft of my account so i know it dont have any thing to do with the passwor
It is the password on your Live ID that needs to be changed prior to trying to block the ID again. If you have done that, I’m sorry for any confusion, but your response seemed to indicate you have focused most of your efforts on your computer and not your Live ID account.
well i did not think that i had to tell all about how and when i was changing my pw but i see i think wrong on that one ok
This type of thing can happen when you either click a fraudulent link,
sorry to put it this way but no im not that brain dead as to fall for that now years ago i was and did do that and lost 3 pc over that crap so nope on that one
or when your auto accept all friend invitations.
in my book that should be removed for the program all that is for is the lazy ppl that dont want to be bather with that stuff so they turn that crap on and then cry about pop up of spim bot
You might also want to check your security settings. If you use any third party programs like Plus!
sorry no one has come up with a add-in program that does a hill of beans for the user and the user privicy so them is useless in my book
you should ensure they are set to never auto accept any requests either.
Are you aware of anything other than the id showing on your contact list? Aside from being annoying to you is it doing anything destructive that you are aware of?
yes i have had my id for ten years now and sence last july when this all started with that id i have got more wlm add contact to the mesg sence july that i had got in the last 10 years and it also will not let me delete any id in the block list and this also is some friend id that i have went to their pc and done it my self as to delete my off the list and went in and seen that it was in the block list and could right click on it and delete me off their list but when i come back to mine it does not ever show that i can delete them i now have like 40 or 50 name in my block list and 99% of them are the dam spim bot from last july to now
i hope this is a lit bit more info in helping you maybe im doing my best to answer your questions of what i have dont
ps so hopeing you will not be banging your head on the wall as long and i have with them brain dead dum moreons and the so called windows live messenger help or support site because i have been going back and forth with them sence last july or august and have not got one bit of help out of them other o just try this or have you dont this well i have done it all and still the one darn think i cant seem to get the answer on how can i got my id off the other use account
Afraid I don’t have any good solutions for you. If you did a clean reformat where the MBR was completely overwritten (not just a repair of the OS) no malware should have been able to survive.
I’d hope that you have also fully scanned any external drives, flash drives and USB devices (phones, iPods, etc) to ensure they are not infected. It is quite possible to have a clean machine but to experience malware sypmtoms from an external device.
If you changed the passwords from a known clean computer, no one should be getting into your account and doing anyting. Unless of course, you have a nasty rootkit or keylogger that is eluding detection – and that is certainly very possible with the way malware is being developed today. Either of these would allow someone to steal your newly changed passwords and continue to compromise your account. Both of these generally require specific malware tools to detect reliably.
Microsoft is actively fighting to remove the spam from Windows Live Messenger and Hotmail, but there is no way to know when real headway will be made. Spam and malware occurs faster than it can be stopped. I know you have notified MS of the problem so that is a definite first step.
There are only a few suggestions I could give you based on what you say you have already done. You could start a new account and a fresh contact list. You could also set up so your regular contacts are in a specific group or listed as favorites and then only expand that group. (Realistically this does not fix the problem in any way – but may be a way to more easily ignore it.)
I wish you the best of luck and if I can think of any other solutions I’ll be happy to let you know. Perhaps someone else will have an idea.
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