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October 27, 2006 at 4:22 pm #25396bronxyMember
When I am building up my website, at the end I slice up all of the images and save it web ready from Adobe Imageready. Except I have noticed when it’s on my website the slices are all distorted. If you look really close on the menu and the bars you can see the images are not clear.
Is there a setting in Imageready that I have to hit so its not looking like that and it’s perfectly clear? I have had to bring it into Photoshop and then click each slice and save it as a PNG which makes it more clear, but then I have to go back and do the imagemaps in Imageready since photoshop does not do that. It would be much easier if I can do everything in Imageready.
Another thing… When I did animation for another website, I have to save the animation in Imageready, it distorts the animation as well. The regular image is not distorted, it only happens when saving it.
http://trippcorp.com/htdocs/cart/skin1/images/orderappliances.gifIf you watch the animation, you can see where stuff is distorted, esp on the TV Animation part with the red box, you can see its really bad quality there.
Any help with settings or anything else I can do so I can clear up all of this mess would be appreciated.
Thanks
October 27, 2006 at 6:45 pm #153881DrBroccoliParticipantWell the animated one is distored because GIFs can only display 256 colors and use a method called “dithering” to compensate for the lost colors. GIFs are used for really basic graphics, you wouldn’t be going and saving your digital photos as GIFs… If you really needed an animated graphic on your site, in full quality, Flash would be the way to go, not GIFs.
As for the loss of quality when saving from Imageready, are you adjusting the settings to make sure something like the “lossy” level isn’t up? Also, image types come into play again here, if you are saving them all as GIFs you’ll get “distortion”, JPEGs can also have this distortion if you do not bump up the quality (I think default in Photoshop is 85%).
I’ve checked your site and you are using GIFs, use PNGs or JPEGs at full quality if you want it to be full quality, but it will only increase loading times and your site seems to be very image heavy when a lot of it could be done with simple text and CSS…
If you use the Photoshop “Save for web…” tool it lets you pick all slices to be saved as a number of file types and gives you quality settings for each one.
October 27, 2006 at 7:28 pm #153878bronxyMemberWe would go the flash route… if only we knew how to do it. We only know graphics, not flash.
You say a lot of my site could be used in CSS since most of it is just graphics. First, does the site load slow for you since it’s all graphic based? I did put up one in PNG http://www.bronxy.com | Guys dig it. Girls want it. You click it. |. Those are mostly all PNG’s. Doesnt seem to load slow for me at all. Second, what could I put into CSS on there? I don’t want to use any CSS Div’s because Div’s arent the way to go anymore. but other than that..
Thanks for your suggestions!
October 27, 2006 at 10:11 pm #153882DrBroccoliParticipantExcuse me?
Divs ARE the way to go. Using tables for design is being phased out, WAY OUT. ImageReady slicing is considered very unprofessional and leaves errors that are not to be desired.
Pages may not load slow for you, but there are still thousands out there on dial-up, and images really slow them down.
What can be done in CSS you ask?
All the text you use images for that are pointless.
All the design elements, ditch the tables.
A lot of your borders that are done in pointless images.
Did I mention all that text in the nav bar you used images for?Not to mention that self-scrolling table is hideous. I don’t want to sound rude or anything but your web design pretty much blows in all areas, it seems to be more 1999 than anything.
If you don’t know flash… LEARN IT. For Pete’s sake your on the internet, you have tutorials, millions! You need to adapt to the changing trends in Web Design, and tables are obviously not it, CSS and Divs are.
October 27, 2006 at 10:42 pm #153879bronxyMember1) I’m not the best freakin’ web designer in the world. I already know that, so saying my design is 1999 doesnt really fade me at all. because like I said, I know i’m not the best… but I must be doing something right if I have my own graphics design business with 2 other friends and were making A TON of money from very respected businesses that like our work.
2) I used DIVS back in the 90’s and right up to about 1999 they got really OLD. Using DIVS creates problems for different size monitors because stuff shifts around. I know a few websites that use DIVS and on my size monitor stuff is so far off the screen it makes me NEVER go back to the website again.I mean I dont want to seem rude either, but I know i’m not the best. And yeah I have looked at tutorials for flash, and am trying to learn it little by little, but full flashed stuff is not always the way to go.
thanks for your time.
October 28, 2006 at 2:37 am #153883DrBroccoliParticipantI’m not going to turn this into a flame war here, I’m going to be the bigger person and end it here.
1. I gave you the help you needed, I answered your questions.
2. Obviously you’re the stubborn type who thinks they know what is best, but…
3. I feel sorry for anyone who has paid you for your work.
4. If you’re making a “ton” of money with your “work”, then take professional classes on Flash.
5. Do your research. Tables were originally designed to display tabular data, I.E. numbers in a chart.(CSS) was designed for visual, graphical layouts of websites. They do work correctly, if they are coded correctly.October 28, 2006 at 3:01 am #153880bronxyMemberI actually do aplogise I was not trying to come off as trying to start anything. I do appreciate all of the suggestions.
As far as people paying for my work, what you see on my website isnt my best work like I HAVE said. I quickly made up a website in like a day. When I make websites for clients, it takes time. Just to show you some work. BMW International I have done. http://www.appliancecenterdirect.com and there are others in the works. I am not trying to start a thing.
I appreciate what you have told me.
October 28, 2006 at 4:13 am #153877TigerbladeParticipantalright, easy now. bronxy, ShadowdogMU is just trying to be helpful. If you choose not to use what he’s given as advice, so be it.
For what it’s worth, though, he’s right about table-based design. Tables were intended for marking up data that would normally be presented in chart-form (lists of figures, etc), not for presentation. Using
sections and other standards-compliant markup is not only more flexible than tables, it saves time and money in several other ways. I’m not going to lecture you on why, Paul Boag can do that.He’s also right that using that many graphics (marked up on each page) will indeed slow down many users, some to the point that your site may become unusable. Using CSS to replace some of those would be much easier on them, and make it easier for you to update the site later on if you chose.
If you don’t want to use CSS, that’s your call. We’re just saying that it’ll cost you in the long run. If you dont want to learn Flash, that’s fine. Personally I don’t know Flash either, I just haven’t had the time or energy to put into learning it. I still get by. Sure, I could have more clients and produce flashier (no pun intended) sites, but that’s fine by me. Besides, Flash tends to not be valid XHTML and not very accessible, so no worries.
But kids, it’s just a forum. Play nice, please?
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