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Tigerblade wrote:Here are my thoughts on this. I have the same basic idea as Someguy03. I’m apparently missing whatever the point of this thread was supposed to be.
WhiteMateria – can you clarify, as briefly as possible, what exactly your point was? If you can clearly state some sort of point one way or another, we might be able to salvage this thread into some semblance of a rational conversation.
Others (Thirtysixway and THE Fox) – can you explain exactly what it is that this program does? I don’t ever go into AIM chats, so I’m unaware of what this program is designed to do. Again, I’d like to be able to salvage this thread in some way or another.
Yes i will, see, with AIM you can sign on multipule Screen Names, but they cannot join chatrooms. With TameClone, you can sign on mulitpule Screen Names, but they can join chatrooms. I think that is what he meant by modified packets, because obviously he does not know what he is talking about. That is not modifing packets, that is just basic packet sending. Nothing about them is modified. TameClone is mainly used by noobs to cause kaos, but with my Customly modified TameClone it is used to take over exchange 5 rooms.
TAMEclone allows you to sign on hundreds of bots and bring them into chat rooms. You can basically have them do whatever you want with them.
THE Fox wrote:Yes i will, see, with AIM you can sign on multipule Screen Names, but they cannot join chatrooms. With TameClone, you can sign on mulitpule Screen Names, but they can join chatrooms. I think that is what he meant by modified packets, because obviously he does not know what he is talking about. That is not modifing packets, that is just basic packet sending. Nothing about them is modified. TameClone is mainly used by noobs to cause kaos, but with my Customly modified TameClone it is used to take over exchange 5 rooms.Could you explain to me how exactly it takes over an exchange 5 room? I’ve used and worked with Tameclone and it’s source before, but I’m interested in whether or not the process used to take over a room is unethical. Are you joining the room until users are forced out and the primary AOL screenname can take over as the owner, or something else?
if you know, exchange 5 rooms are those public rooms. In tameclone there is an option to autojoin. What this does is use a masterclone to see if someone leaves. When someone leaves the room, it gets all the clones to try and join the room, resulting in one entering and the rest not able to join. With his mod, it has a “one bot joiner”. In public rooms, you are sent to another room if one is full. This one bot jointer only forces one bot to join instead of all of them so they dont fill other rooms. This will slowly fill the room and let you empty it and own it.
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Tameclone is not just used by noobs. Sometimes i use it for fun, but i use it to save my rooms when i cant ban people. I only own a room to ban porn bots. Sometimes people will say the ban words and get banned, or will be spamming and just being rude in the room and get banned.
This is not the program that bans people….
Alright, I was pointed to here by someone, and I have not read the entire topic, but let me first say that White is completely wrong about everything. Especially this part caught me:
Quote:AOL does not give a rats a if you can ban people from the room or not. It does not profit them to hire people and pay them money to moderate rooms on a free chat client.They do care, obviously, it shows that AOL has better features than AIM. People actually like to get AOL to own chats like that, as weird as it sounds.
Now as for the rest of White’s horribly mis-informed posts, AOL room owner tools do not use “exploits” to work. They do not use “exploited packets”, they take incoming packets and adjust the program accordingly. If one is to do a ban, it will send the packet back to the server as a ban packet with the screenname to ban, AS IF you hit the eject button anyway. So I don’t really see how that’s exploiting.
Now as unclever as White was, he posted a screenshot of a program that has no relevance to a AOL Room Owner Tool. Ironically, the program he posted is one of the very reasons why room owning is essential. Without room owning, how would bots get banned? It would be basically what the Exchange 5 chats turned into (even though you can own Ex5 chats now).
I will admit lots of room owners abuse their power, but without it, rooms would just be botted up all day, because little kids that know nothing but how to sign bots on will just fill up chats all day and sit in them.
Bizkit wrote:Alright, I was pointed to here by someone,That was me:D
Yeah i think bizkit is right. Some people say i abuse my power, but i really think i dont. If someone is being a jackass in the room, i dont want him there i can ban him/her.As for the bots, i use the bots to fill the room then own it so i can get the porn bots out.
You’ll get sick of owning American Idol real fast. Nothing but alsers and cyber whores go in there, and is almost always filled to 36 people in the 0 instance, even without porn bots.
I’ll be honest, I spend a bit of time in aim chats, and one thing I find disturbing is that the tameclone mod (or whatever it is) has lead to an all new form of annoyance.
yes, the pornbots were irritating. I don’t miss them at all. but they were harmless in that they really couldn’t do much besides repeat stuff over and over. adding the human element to room control is problematic in that it gives human intelligence to something with the power to ruin.I’m opposed to the idea of “owning” rooms. ideally chatting would be free, and democratic. what the tameclone et al mods do is give too much control to individuals. I would thank fox for moderating, but ask who put him in charge and what right he has to control what can and can’t be said
thanks all,
Nick
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