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October 22, 2005 at 9:11 pm #20406
Jeff Hester
KeymasterSeveral people (Amy, Eagle_Kiwi to name two) have voiced concerns about BigBlueBall being a slow-loading website. I want to dig into this and determine if we’re talking about milliseconds or 20-30 seconds.
The server is adequately configured to handle the load, and when you examine the page build times (i.e. “Page generated in 0.20721 seconds with 6 queries), you’ll see that they are generally sub-second builds, which should be perfectly fine. So then, the problem (or at least the part we can control) lies in a combination of the total page size (HTML+CSS+Javascript+images) and our network bandwidth.
I’d like to get your ideas for 1) benchmarking our performance vs. similar or even bigger sites (forums mainly) and 2) coming up with suggestions to improve that performance (if necessary).
I know that I’m not in a good position to judge, because with my 15Mbps fiber-optic connection, it loads pretty darn quick. But this is an issue. When you check the data about BigBlueBall reported by Alexa, it reports the following:
Site Stats for bigblueball.com:
- Traffic Rank for bigblueball.com: 58,914(
29,252)

- Speed: Very Slow (95% of sites are faster), Avg Load Time: 6.5 Seconds (what’s this?)

- Other sites that link to this site: 70

- Online Since: 21-May-1999
So according to Alexa, 95% of all sites they index are faster than BigBlueBall. That puts us in the bottom 5%, and that stinks.
Let’s not get into an argument about whether it’s slow or not, let’s do some real benchmarks with other sites (suggestions on sites to compare with?) and then let’s fix it. I’d be happy if we were just in the top 50% at this point.
Thanks in advance for your construction suggestions.
October 22, 2005 at 9:47 pm #132188David
ParticipantOk so it looks like /forums/index.htm is ~86K, and the entire page data once loaded (with ads) is 222K, without the ads is 198K. I guess that’s fine if you’re on anything over 2Mbit, but for 56k users? That’s 32+ seconds to download the data for the page, then another X seconds to assemble it before that Alexa browser page loaded flag is set. I don’t know how that compares to other sites, but 32 seconds is quite a while. Anything over dialuip speed should be pretty fast to get pages though.
October 23, 2005 at 2:30 am #132189Spike
MemberJust to get a feel for the different speeds, on DSL (386k Download), the /forums/index.php page took approximately 12 seconds from point-of-click to finish.
October 23, 2005 at 4:29 pm #132187Jeff Hester
KeymasterDave and Spike, thanks for your constructive replies. I would appreciate more real world “click-to-load” times from various locations and on various types of connections. I’d also like suggestions for other sites to compare with, because a forum is by it’s very nature going to have a larger than average HTML page.
I would suggest we compare with:
I’m open to other suggestions.
- Traffic Rank for bigblueball.com: 58,914(
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