January 6, 2007 at 2:54 pm #26026seahorseMember
Can someone please tell me if I am chatting on AIM with a friend is there anyway a third person can be reading it without our knowledge?? Thanks for any help!!January 15, 2007 at 12:22 am #156552EEDOKMember
if they're in between you and your friend(router, isp, etc) then yes they can, if you encrypt your messages though they'll be harder to read.March 15, 2007 at 12:54 am #156556Slickrick77Member
whoa whoa….how is this possible for someone in between to read IM messages? explain that again? and ur saying there is no way i or a friend would know right?August 4, 2007 at 5:45 am #156557RenamonMember
There are also programs parents and family members can get hat log all your conversations. People doing stuff they ain't supposed to, be aware of this. YOU ARE NOT SAFE FROM THE NEVER ENDING NOSYNESS OF PARENTS!August 5, 2007 at 6:53 pm #156553RU Still DownMember
There are many ways a third party can read your conversations. I will list them below (please note that these are just a few of the many many ways someone can spy on your conversations)
- since your conversations are not encrypted anyone beyond & including your router (or even those before the router if multiple clients are set up under the same hub) can read your conversations — these usually include governments, ISPs, IM providers, siblings. ECHELON and other spying programs have been setup by governments worldwide.
- Not to mention recently (over the weekend) in the USA (once known as the most free country on the planet) the House and Senate both passed bills that will enable their federal government to spy on its citizens without their knowledge.
- through a software keylogger
- through a hardware keylogger
- virus/trojan/spyware infestations which usually involve a keylogger or a screen capture program — these pieces of malware can also log all packets sent to/from the computer
- legitimate spyware/spying utilities — like the ones described by Renamon — for use by ‘parents'
- software used to log conversations by the end user — i believe most IM clients now provide their own logging software
- US government spyware — the US government has recently used keyloggers in catching ‘criminals' who encrypt data — also many anti-virus companies refuse to detect these programs as spyware
- electro magnetic radiation given off by your CRT/LCD monitor (the US government has policy in place to prevent this from happening in various government facilities) — read about it on the Wikipedia article on van Eck Phreaking
so.. yes basically anyone with access to your computer for a small period of time can install software that will log all your conversations or monitor your packets live. if they don't do that they can install a little box (hardware keylogger) behind your keyboard hook up (PS/2 connector) that records all texts sent from the keyboard to your computer… and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
the closest you can get to complete privacy and security is building your computer every time you run it, compiling & security testing all softwares you use while on that computer, and making sure that you use strong encryption so nobody can break the cypher and read your conversations. either that or go outside and talk in a dark alley with your friends. just make sure you're not in Chicago or London because these cities (and probably others) have police/ government cameras installed to watch/catch ‘criminals' (citizens).August 6, 2007 at 4:01 pm #156558RenamonMember
Not to mention recently (over the weekend) in the USA (once known as the most free country on the planet) the House and Senate both passed bills that will enable their federal government to spy on its citizens without their knowledge.
Thats bull****. What a free country we are. So free that our government spies on everything we do. You know what? Screw the government. This is just wrong for them to be able to do this.November 5, 2007 at 10:36 pm #156559ChalalaMember
I am having an eavesdropping problem with one of my contacts on msn messenger. He is using some sort of program that allows him to see everythign on my screen while I am online. I was not aware of this until he told me. What kind of program would allow this and is there any way to block it? Can he see more than just my messenger windows? Please help.November 6, 2007 at 5:13 pm #156554VvWolverinevVParticipant
Chalala, there are two ways I know of for someone to remotely view your entire screen.
The first, Remote Assistance, is built into Windows XP. You can disable it via System Properties under the Remote tab.
The second is through Virtual Network Computing (VNC). The way I've seen it used, some VNC software is installed on the computer to be monitored (your computer) and then accessed from a remote computer via some permissions set locally. I'm fairly certain that some software must be installed and running on your machine in order for someone to be able to see the whole screen.
You should look into getting rid of remote access to your computer right away, because both of these methods also allow complete control of your machine (think viruses, bank accounts, etc.) Good luck, and let us know what you find.July 5, 2008 at 12:22 pm #156561izzyMember
so recently i was on my bf's computer and his bdays comin up and i know he went to a website that had the present he wants so when he wasnt around i went to his web history to look for it and found my screen name and all my aim logs with a bunch of ppl i talk to. at first it creeped me out but im not gonna say anything to him since i was looking through his history. Then about a month later i saw he accessed it again but it was all my newer convos.
Hes no advanced government offical or any of that and as far as im concerned he doesnt have and hardware that can spy on me, im hoping. he has a mac and i have a pc is there any way I can tell from looking at his computer that he has a certain software or program thats allowing him to access my stuff? or by looking at mine?
thank you!July 5, 2008 at 2:25 pm #156555VvWolverinevVParticipant
izzy, were the logs for conversations that you had on your PC or on his Mac?September 2, 2008 at 10:43 am #156563axelkanParticipant
Anyone can read it, since AIM is public service. The only way to protect your privacy is to use secure closed server (LAN servers, e.g.) and encryptionOctober 27, 2008 at 1:05 pm #156562izzyMember
Sorry I haven’t been on in a while I forgot what the website was.
I have a pc and he has a Mac now again I was on his computer yesterday and he wanted me to find a previous YouTube video so I went to his history to find it and my aim log with about 6 different ppl where on there. He has to be getting it thru the internet, how do it stop it or return the spying? revenge is evil 😮
btw he doesn’t use aim he uses apples equivalent.
Thanks!February 13, 2009 at 9:07 pm #156564kelseycMember
That means he is using iChat. If you don't want your chat logs to be recorded, then axelkan is correct. You need a secure private network. Brosix offers a free instant messaging program where your conversations can't be followed, since it's on a secure server. You can download the free version at www. brosix.org (it wouldn't let me post the link)
If you still want to use your same messaging program, I may not be able to help you. 😀March 5, 2009 at 10:09 am #156560clairxMemberseahorse;212966 wrote:Can someone please tell me if I am chatting on AIM with a friend is there anyway a third person can be reading it without our knowledge?? Thanks for any help!!
Yes, and if you are using wireless at school, work or the local cafe everyone else on the wireless can see your stuff too. I always use a personal vpn to prevent this and keep my conversations private. It basically encrypts your whole connection so everything goes to a remote server hundreds of miles away before hitting the internet unencrypted. Nobody near you can see anything you are doing. I like knowing that people around me can't spy on me.March 21, 2009 at 10:04 pm #156565fukudomeMemberclairx;236019 wrote:Nobody near you can see anything you are doing. I like knowing that people around me can't spy on me.
Of course, you're assuming that your computer isn't compromised (via a hardware or software keylogger) or that a video camera above you isn't watching all your activities.
Using a private vpn (a “trusted” third party) is dangerous because you're tunneling through someone who claims to protect your privacy but at the same time has access to all your activities.
If you'd rather go the purchase route I suggest using a cheaper provider than the one recommend by clairX: Santrex Don't trust me though, shop around!
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