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Ok, hey
so i have an email address, hotmail. I have unread messages…
can i open these via e.g Outlook express…and they are still Unread on the hotmail account?
My experience with Outlook Express is that when I open my Yahoo mail with Outlook (which is how I open those) they are “physically” moved from Yahoo into Outlook. So after I open them, they are not available from Yahoo anymore. Of course – I have a forwarding thingy set up, and that may make a difference. :confused: I don’t know how it works with others, but would think it would be the same.
Interesting question!
When accessing POP email through Outlook, there’s a checkbox somewhere along the line asking if you want to remove messages from the mailbox when Outlook retrieves them (or it asks if you want to leave them there – I forget the wording).
That’s the checkbox you’re looking for if you’re trying to leave messages in the web-based mailbox.
franklampard;228660 wrote:Ok, heyso i have an email address, hotmail. I have unread messages…
can i open these via e.g Outlook express…and they are still Unread on the hotmail account?
You can’t open Hotmail messages in Outlook Express anymore, neither can you import Hotmail messages into OE.
BUT…you can do the above in the new Windows Live Mail (Build 12.0.1606), which is a polished up version of Outlook Express, and I like it! Get it here (works in XP, too). At the first screen, uncheck everything and click Install. At the next screen, you should be able to choose Windows Live Mail.
Any problems, feel free to post back.
Outlook Express has been replaced with Windows Live Mail on Vista computers – so if you’re using Vista – Philiip is 100% correct. I’m not sure you can’t still do it with XP though (…Sorry to disagree with you Philip – but I’m just not seeing a lot of results on Google saying it ain’t possible!)
Take a look at the following tutorial and see if it helps. I was unable to find anything relating to a date on this page (although the source is HTML 4.01 which is current if that means anything).
In Yahoo answers there were some answers indicating you could do it (the first with instructinos) and some like Philip who said it’s not possible anymore.
The last MS Knowledge Base article I could find was last revised in Jan. 2007 so it doesn’t offer much promise (and it was for a specific error anyway.)
I do know for a fact, I have 2 contacts using the full blown Outlook who have successfully configured for Hotmail, but if memory serves correctly at least 1 of them had a heck of a time getting it to work. I personally don’t use Outlook Express, Outlook, or Windows Live Mail so I’m afraid this is all I can offer.
Please let us know how it turns out – I’m sure Philip and I will likely debate this one later!;)
@PolarBearNPR 228663 wrote:
My experience with Outlook Express is that when I open my Yahoo mail with Outlook (which is how I open those) they are “physically” moved from Yahoo into Outlook. So after I open them, they are not available from Yahoo anymore. Of course – I have a forwarding thingy set up, and that may make a difference. :confused: I don’t know how it works with others, but would think it would be the same.
Interesting question!
This isn’t correct, because Hotmail uses WebDAV, not POP3. I shudder at the thought of anyone still using POP3 over IMAP.
@Tigerblade 228665 wrote:
When accessing POP email through Outlook, there’s a checkbox somewhere along the line asking if you want to remove messages from the mailbox when Outlook retrieves them (or it asks if you want to leave them there – I forget the wording).
[/quote]Not POP3, so doesn’t apply.
Quote:That’s the checkbox you’re looking for if you’re trying to leave messages in the web-based mailbox.Although it’s been years since I’ve used Outlook Express, I’m pretty sure such an option won’t exist for Hotmail, because of the way WebDAV works.
@Philip 228666 wrote:
You can’t open Hotmail messages in Outlook Express anymore, neither can you import Hotmail messages into OE.
I’ve done a little research, and it seems that accounts older than and active since 2004 will still have access to WebDAV, but YMMV.
Quote:BUT…you can do the above in the new Windows Live Mail (Build 12.0.1606), which is a polished up version of Outlook Express, and I like it! Get it here (works in XP, too). At the first screen, uncheck everything and click Install. At the next screen, you should be able to choose Windows Live Mail.Any problems, feel free to post back.
Sounds like the perfect solution. 🙂
WebDAV is like IMAP, in that it synchronizes the local mailbox with the remote mailbox. This differs from POP3 in that, with POP, your client connects to the server and says “give me all new messages since I last connected.” The messages are downloaded, and then optionally (but usually) deleted from the server. With IMAP, the client connects and says “here is a list of all changes that I’ve made locally since my last connect, give me a list of all changes made remotely since last connect.” This means that when you delete a message locally, the server will delete it remotely next time you connect. This works the same way with messages being marked as read. Once you read it, it will be updated and marked as read soon thereafter. There are some services, such as Hotmail Popper that claim to offer POP3 access to the mailbox. It’s free to try for 100 messages, and then $17.50 to buy. This software has done one of two things; either emulated a browser session, or created a WebDAV session, and then converts the data to a local format, and serves it up with a POP3 server. I wouldn’t really recommend using it, but it should work.
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