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January 22, 2007 at 2:57 pm #26201colin1951ukParticipant
Hi,
Once in a while when I try and send an im to somebody in a room who I don’t know a bit of sofware kicks in protecting that person from receiving unsolicited messages.
It reads sort of: I do not respond to unsolicited messages and if you want to talk to me please enter the following code 123XYZ (or whatever)…and I think one gets three attempts to enter the correct code.
When I see this sort of thing I don’t bother going any furthur as the person in question obviously prefers to chat in the room and I try that instead.
However I would be interested to know what programme generates this type of reply to im’s from strangers as I’d like to try it myself.
I get a lot of twits who constantly bing bong/message me and won’t take no for an answer untill I put them on my ignore list. It seems to me that this sort of programme would get rid of such ninnies as I don’t think they’ve got the brains to enter a pass code.
If anyone knows the software that I’m talking about could they point me in its direction please.
Cheers.
Colin
January 22, 2007 at 4:49 pm #157123imported_Ven0mMemberIt’s either YTK Pro/Lite or Y!TunnelPro. Personally, I’d suggest YTK Pro/Lite since it’s more flexible and stable, and since YTK Lite provides this for free. It’s called the PM Challenge Integrity Check, or Magic Word Verification.
Hope this helps answer your question. 🙂
Example of YTK’s system:
Code:: I do not accept Private Messages from unauthenticated users. If you would like for me to get your messages please respond with the following Key WITHOUT the spaces : J J 8 I H C Attempts Remaining : (3)January 23, 2007 at 5:49 am #157124Torseq Tech.MemberThere are actually several other chat programs that you could’ve encountered that have this ability, Colin. Two programs come to mind… YahElite and YahEh. I actually do believe that YahElite was the first one to have this Magic Word Verification (Dermot would probably know) system, but I could be wrong so I’m not 100% on that.
Venom recommended my program, YTK Lite, which is free to use and it has the most flexibility for this system. In Y!TunnelPro this system is much the same but not as flexible because 2 Groups (Zones), chat users and unknown users, are spam challenged when this feature is enabled. In YTK Lite and YTK Pro we give you the ability to actually Enable this on a per-group basis, meaning, you could have this enabled to ‘challenge’ chat users and have it disabled to unknown users (users that dont belong to your friends, safe list or chat users groups) or vice versa. This flexibility definitely comes in handy imo.
While it is possible to bypass these magic word challenges prompting for a pass code, I’ve yet to see it done other than a proof-of-concept tool I wrote last year that will do it (easy enough to write for most programmers). It’s a nice system to have working for you, eliminates ‘SPIM’. 🙂
January 23, 2007 at 1:47 pm #157126colin1951ukParticipantOk Chaps,
Well as I’ve never used any of the programmes mentioned I think the thing to do is try YTK Lite as it’s free and see what I think..and upgrade from there if I find the whole package usefull.
I see YTK has a forum so I can always pop in there for help if the whole thing is too much for my ageing brain cells to handle 😀
Thanks for the help.
Colin
January 24, 2007 at 5:46 pm #157122DermotParticipantYeah YahELite was first with the magic word but it was just a stationary user perferred word that never changed unless you the user changed it, most clients followed suit with same sort of option because of how effective it was for detering spam/spim.
First to have the generated sequence of numbers would have been Y! Tunnel.
However yes, many programs give you this option and many more so i suggest you have a look thru the following..
Yahoo! Chat Clients: Beat the Boot Codes YTK Pro – The Yahoo! Messenger-Integrated Chat Companion
A comprehensive list of chat clients for use on Yahoo Y!TunnelPro – The Yahoo! Messenger Companion!Again there are that many out there not all are listed but hopefully these sites will produce you with a range you can choose from personally.
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January 29, 2007 at 10:34 am #157125Torseq Tech.MemberFirst to have the generated sequence of numbers would have been Y! Tunnel.
Yes, I remember when it first debuted in Y!TunnelPro years back.
It’s setup in YTK Lite/Pro very solidly:
- A 6 character randomly-generated alphanumeric string that is case-sensitive is issued. Spaces are inserted after each character and the key is to be sent back without the spacing.
- The user has 3 tries to complete the challenge successfully, if they fail they’re silently ‘ignored’ for the remainder of the session (or for as long as you have the Spam Challenge Integrity Check enabled).
- Spam Challenge Integrity Checking (Magic Word Verification) is “Zonable” and each group, Chat Users & Unknown Users/Outsiders, are treated independently (Off/On to each separately).
- Relatively sensitive flood detection and challenge suspension is present to combat a potential disconnection from the server if you were to be PM bombed and had to issue a challenge PM(s) to each bot flooding you (ouch).
- Authenticated user’s PMs are sent to your UIC storage window for review unlike some other chat programs that will pop open a separate PM window for each authenticated user that successfully completed the challenge (this isn’t a safe way to implement such a feature!).
As of YTK Pro beta build 260, if an authenticated user is replied to then event statefulness is tracked internally and all future PMs from the particular user will be sent to your open PM window (and not back to the UIC storage window). This entitles you to complete convenience without the need to worry about being PM bombed by authentication bots written to successfully complete the challenge and attempt to open up several separate PM windows on your screen (thus eating up more memory and CPU).
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