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I read an article on CNET today titled “Cries to open up IM have quieted” in which the author claims that interoperability is dying a slow, quiet death.
Just two years ago, MSN and Yahoo were loudly complaining that AOL would not open up their AIM network to allow other instant messengers to work with them.
Today, both MSN and Yahoo have seen significant gains in market share (much high percentage gains than AOL). Although they still lag behind in total market share, they are getting much closer. The lack of open standards for instant messaging hasn’t stopped their growth.
So the question is… is interoperability dead? And do you care?
Jeff Hester
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But not untill there is a standard set and the big three all agree to follow it. (AOL, MS, Y!)
Till then, it hasn’t yet lived. So how can it be dead?
Do I care? Not really. Aside from only 2-3 personal friends every one of my contacts have MSN. Which is great because it is my prefered messenger. As long as I’m happy, the AOL users can suffer.
(I know, that sounded self-centered)Nathan Bales – Die Trillian Die!!
I agree with Nathan,
Nah…. thats my answer it but there lack a specific instant messenger dedicated to business maybe that is the only reason to believe that interoperabilty is dying.
some people use MSN like I do, and some others and some netmeetings, but there is no genuine messengers for business.
Do I care? surely I do. but I can’t see it dying… coz it can’t…
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Quote:quote: but there is no genuine messengers for business.There are in fact several ‘genuine’ messengers for business, totally secure, and quite a few more ‘in house’.
However none to date are inreroperable and shall not be for some time because of security concerns, naturally enough.rustedtight
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There are in fact several ‘genuine’ messengers for business, totally secure, and quite a few more ‘in house’.
However none to date are inreroperable and shall not be for some time because of security concerns, naturally enough.That’s not entirely true. Lotus Sametime has interoperability with AIM. Microsoft Exchange Messenger has interoperability with MSN Messenger. Bantu Messenger (http://www.bantu.com) has interoperability with AIM, Yahoo, MSN. There are a few other examples.
Ben
Quote:quote:There are a few other examples.The quoted examples hardly constitute interoperabilty in the full meaning of the word.
I have AIM, can I initialize a chat freely with Sametime users? NO.
MS Exchange msgr talks to MSN Messenger. Does not qualify.
Bantu comes close. Can I, using Yahoo chat freely with Bantu users? (I dont know the answer).
Interoperability is not in the best financial interests of AOL (AOL IM, ICQ). They will need to be dragged forcibly, kicking and protesting, into that arena. Ask yourself why are ICQ users not able to chat with AIM users?rustedtight
Obviously all the “interoperability” solutions that exists today are just Band-Aids. True interoperability would mean that users could log into whatever IM product they choose to use (and JUST that IM program) and communicate with users on any other IM program. As it stands right now, you have to login from one client to multiple networks.
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I have AIM, can I initialize a chat freely with Sametime users? NO.Once again, it depends how you define interoperability. Any Sametime user that wants you to be able to IM them from AIM is accessible from AIM. You just need to know their AIM ScreenName. So I would say YES you can chat with Sametime users.
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MS Exchange msgr talks to MSN Messenger. Does not qualify.Why doesn’t this qualify? Exchange Messenger and MSN Messenger use completely different protocols, connect to different servers and do not share user information between them.
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Interoperability is not in the best financial interests of AOL (AOL IM, ICQ). They will need to be dragged forcibly, kicking and protesting, into that arena. Ask yourself why are ICQ users not able to chat with AIM users?Actually, I’m pretty sure this is the case because AOL would have to open up their network to competitors if they linked AOL & ICQ together. As I recall this was one of the issues that was discussed as part of the FCC ruling with AOL & TimeWarner merging last year.
While there is certainly an argument to be made that AOL in particular isn’t interested in promoting interoperability in the IM space at this time for consumers, not all of the “big 3” feel that way. Look at what MSN did recently informing Trillian of a change they were making to their servers that would cut off Trillian access. That’s a positive sign that at least Microsoft is not opposed to the concept of interoperability. Actions speak louder than words.
AOL’s behavior on the other hand definitely has an air anti-interoperability, despite what they say in the press. Personally, I don’t consider it an “open” system if you have to pay AOL money in order to gain interop, or your users have to register for AIM accounts in order to message users on the service.
Businesses are clamoring for enterprise solutions that address interoperability specifically because the consumer products don’t meet their technical requirements, but that a large amount of business communication is done with people outside of the organization. Products like Bantu, Sametime and Exchange Messenger (to a lesser extent) are attempting to meet the business requirements for interoperability.
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Quote:quote: I read an article on CNET today titled “Cries to open up IM have quieted” in which the author claims that interoperability is dying a slow, quiet death.‘have quieted’ without a doubt that has to be the understament of the year. Interoperability is nolonger dying, its dead, defunct, finito.
I mean seriously, these guys aint even interested in getting their crap together ‘inhouse’, AOLIM still cant (wont) talk to ICQ, nobody can initiate chat with sametime from the’outside’, we heard cries of ‘we protect our users’ OMG spare me from their advert bombardment.
Its a done goose, finished, buried, just lets get the service over with n we can all go home.
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