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April 12, 2004 at 7:44 pm #4068nathanintuMember
Daum Communications Corp, South Korea’s top Internet portal, said on Monday it was suing Microsoft Corp and its Korean unit for alleged unfair business practices related to instant messaging software.
“Microsoft used its dominant market position by bundling its Instant Messenger program to its Windows XP operating system and that has caused significant damage to Daum,” Daum said in a statement. “By using its dominance in PC operating systems, Microsoft is excluding rivals from Internet messenger markets.”
Daum, which has its own messaging service, said it had filed a 10 billion won (US$8.74 million) indemnity suit at the Seoul District Court.
Officials at Microsoft Korea could not immediately be reached for comment.
Source: http://www.forbes.com
Full Article: http://www.forbes.com/technology/newswire/2004/04/12/rtr1328669.htmlApril 13, 2004 at 6:31 pm #46839detn8rParticipantWhat else is new?
The companies (including Real) can’t make enough money simply because their product sucks, so lets sue Microsoft because their successful, or even blaming Microsoft because they used MS products in Windows, as to why their products/services are not doing well.I honestly don’t believe how Real got the high end of the deal on the WMP vs. Real in Windows. I fail to understand what Microsoft did wrong. They spent millions of hours, and millions of dollars creating Operating Systems, so why can’t they incorporate THEIR services into it?
Companies demanding MS release OS source code. Geeze, if I made something as successful as Windows, why would I want someone like Linux programmers picking it up, throwing into their OS, and providing it for free?
Damnit what’s next.. calculator.com suing them?
April 13, 2004 at 6:39 pm #46843Someguy03MemberI agree with detn8r. These companys with crappy software are going and suing companys with good software. Next microsoft is going to be sued for having IE in windows. If people want daum, they will use daum, if they just want to use windows messenger, they will use windows messenger.
April 13, 2004 at 6:41 pm #46838detn8rParticipantQuote:quote:Next microsoft is going to be sued for having IE in windows.I believe it’s being talked about, but by whom I’m not sure.
April 13, 2004 at 6:51 pm #46842Someguy03MemberAlso, Look at messengers like Yahoo, AIM, and ICQ. They are very successful because they are good services and have good software (most of them). If a program cannot compete with Windows Messenger, it must suck. Wannabe programmers should not go and try to make themselves populer by destroying the good services.
Microsoft is just simply trying to provide all the things you need for a good computer experience when you first install your computer. So if you want to play music, you wont have to go download a media player off the net, and if you want to IM, you wont have to go search for a messenger.
April 13, 2004 at 6:56 pm #46848DoSMemberu all have a point… but I think these people where just waiting for a big pay day IMO. I dont think they care a bit for there product anyways
April 13, 2004 at 6:59 pm #46841Someguy03MemberYes, after seeing microsoft get sued by Real Networks, they think its the path for easy money and power. But they will only end up where they started if they try and cripple the companys that are good.
April 13, 2004 at 7:06 pm #46837detn8rParticipantLonghorn is going to seem pretty empty once everyone gets a piece -o- Microsoft 😀
April 14, 2004 at 3:13 am #46847vinnieloMemberQuote:quote:Originally posted by someguy03If people want daum, they will use daum, if they just want to use windows messenger, they will use windows messenger.
Easy for you to say.
People would not have heard of Daum because M$ have supplied Windows Messenger with Windows.April 14, 2004 at 3:25 am #46840DavidParticipantQuote:quote:Originally posted by vinnieloQuote:quote:Originally posted by someguy03If people want daum, they will use daum, if they just want to use windows messenger, they will use windows messenger.
Easy for you to say.
People would not have heard of Daum because M$ have supplied Windows Messenger with Windows.Simply put, you are buying a Microsoft Operating System, they have the copyrights, they own the source code, they can install whatever they want in it because YOU are BUYING it.
If you don’t want Windows Messenger, don’t buy a Windows operating system. It’s your choice. This is like saying that Microsoft shouldn’t include WordPad in Windows because users won’t use WordPerfect.
AIM, Yahoo, ICQ, they were all successful (To a point), why? Because they designed, coded and distributed the software. Oh, last time I checked AIM does not come pre-installed on any Operating System.
I’m not really a huge Microsoft supporter, nor am I fully against them, but can you honestly say that if you created an operating system that it would be devoid of all software? I guess adobe can say the same, because MSPaint comes with Windows, and IE too.
Messenger services are popular because they are distributed and are widely-known. Daum? I’ve heard of a lot of IM networks and services, but never anything about Daum. Maybe it’s possible that they have poor marketing strategies.
April 14, 2004 at 12:31 pm #46846vinnieloMemberHow can you compare Paint with Adobe and Wordpad with WordPerfect?
April 21, 2004 at 10:29 pm #46845MorlarkMemberSo M$ makes good products. Fair enough, that might be true. Sometimes. But by bundling in their software with Windows they are attempting to stifle the competition. And that is just wrong. You say that people can choose what they want to use. Maybe that’s true for people who have seen what’s on offer. But for someone who has just bought a computer, why would they bother going to all the effort looking for another program if there’s one already installed? They wouldn’t, and thus M$ are attempting to create conditions for their rivals.
I remember back when computers didn’t come with as much software installed. Sure, it may be more convenient now, but I never had a problem with it back then. I guess what I’m trying to say is, should we really want to sacrifice economic stability to make things ever so slightly more convenient for ourselves?April 21, 2004 at 11:28 pm #46844IceMemberThe majority of PC buyers are new to the scene, young ppl, families wanting to get online etc. M$ have every right to put their things in there like media player etc. Why? because these buyers are expecting a ready to use system becuase they don’t know their a$$ from their elbow when it comes to d/ling a movie player or an MP3 player. SO M$ offers them the complete package. Is this stopping the rival companies? NO not at all, theres still thousands of long term users out there that will use other products as well as these new users as they get more savvy with time.
So sueing M$ for being a good company and providing a great service to ppl isnt some I think ppl should be encouraging. -
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