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August 6, 2004 at 11:29 pm #9006kimmyMember
Hello,
I wonder if anyone can help me. Can a person I am chatting with obtain info from my computer through my ip or isp? Specifically, info on whom I have been chatting?August 7, 2004 at 8:24 am #74844zhugeliangMemberThe answere, is no. You cannot obtain information about your account or any of your online activities from your IP address, or your ISP. If they were to call your ISP and try to do “social engineering” and get your information by pretending to be you, they still wouldn’t. ISP’s do not disclose that information to anyone, not even to you. Only the FBI would be able to attain any information like that. So, the answere, is no. There is no information they can get from your computer either, unless of course they had a form of spyware on your computer that would give them access to it. But, just from your IP address, the answere, again, is no.
August 7, 2004 at 3:39 pm #74846kimmyMemberThanks,
Can he find out any info at all. How does one download spyware on anothers computer? They do not have hands on access to my computer. If he did download spyware on my computer, what info can he retrieve from messenger? He claims to know how many people I have chatted with. This was supposedly done over a five minute period. How long would it take for someone to do this?August 7, 2004 at 3:46 pm #74841Jeff HesterKeymasterKimmy first of all to clarify ” he ” can’t download spyware on your computer. “He” can however, send you a file through messenger or email and once YOU’VE opened it , it could contain a trojan or virus ie keylogger, magic password stealer so on and so forth.
That is why you are always warned not to open anything from anyone unless you know them and even then you are supposed to scan it with your Nortons or whatever you happen to have.
August 7, 2004 at 4:20 pm #74847kimmyMemberOk. Well he obviously has not sent me anything. I have not gotten any emails or any files from him. So no spyware. So basically this guy is full of s***I have Norton Anti virus running.
Thanks.August 7, 2004 at 4:29 pm #74842Jeff HesterKeymasterOne more thing, if you are that suspicious of him. And he is making you uncomfortable enough to be scared or ask questions my best suggestion is to block him and forget him.
Most people don’t come on the internet looking for trouble and the ones who do are better off being avoided. Who needs him scaring you?
On the off chance for some unknown reason he can see that stuff. Its best you don’t call his bluff. If he can’t he may find a way of doing it. If he can then you need to get away from him.
August 7, 2004 at 4:59 pm #74848kimmyMemberThis guy claims that while we were chatting he was getting my ISP, which in turn will log in to my IP address. From there, he knew how many people I had been chatting with over the last 72 hours.
August 7, 2004 at 5:58 pm #74849kimmyMemberHe claims to have known anyway.
August 8, 2004 at 6:34 am #74843Jeff HesterKeymasterI have to admit I dont Know if he can get that information from your isp, I highly doubt it but I am not an expert. Here is what I suggest, If he is on your list go to this site http://carbonize.co.uk/
and get the Deny-a-buddy 3 or Dab3 ….. download it, then use it to take your id off his list. Do NOT put him on block if he is really getting all this information on you, it has been proven that when you block a person they can then turn around and add you to their Yahoo list anyway. Since you have the person on block you will not know this or get the invite for it.Denyabuddy will remove your id off their list. This is the best way to go in my opinion because he won’t see you on. If he contacts you , you won’t have to answer. Eventually he should move on to annoy someone else.
Btw, it sounds like you are still in contact with him, why? If he is scaring you or making threats or making implications to other illegal activity then stop talking to him.
If you insist on talking to him, tell him the information he has is invasion of privacy and he can go to jail when caught. NOt IF but When caught.
August 8, 2004 at 10:30 pm #74845zhugeliangMemberOkay, the answere Smcf4, is no. You cannot obtain any information from a person’s ISP, at all. No personal information, or any history of internet activity can be retrieved, not even by the person to which the ISP’s services are being provided to. Not to mention, that your “IP” address doesn’t hold any information anyways, nothing is logged according to IP address by the ISP. They log it through your username/password. The only time the ISP would ever do anything with your IP address as far as looking it up is concerned, or keeping record of it, is if you have broadband, and that’s just so they know what IP address you are being provisioned.
Now, about this continued conversation with him. You would be best to follow Smcf4’s advice and not talk to him anymore, however, if you do decide to talk to him, and he ever brings this stuff up, you can pretty much tell him he’s full of crap. I highly doubt he can prove any of it, which gives you a bit of an upper hand. Also, you say you run Norton Anti-Virus? Well, I would suggest that you also look into getting a firewall. If you don’t already have Norton’s firewall utility, then you should look into getting either Zone Alarm, or Sygate, they both have free versions of their software.
The bottom line is, the guy is trying to scare you into doing things you don’t want to, or just scaring you period. He thinks he’s cool because he can lie to people who don’t know much about this stuff. Hell, he doesn’t either, he is just making it look like he does by saying a few technical things that you will likely not know much about, and it will confuse you and trick you into thinking he knows a lot about that stuff. Basicaly, he’s what we call a script kiddie, a hacker wannabe who has to “show off” to try and look cool to his other “hacker” wannabe friends. Pay no attention to what he says, and don’t take it seriously. If he continues to bother you, let him know that you know he’s a sham, and a fraud, and knows nothing about what he’s talking about. I’m sure you know what you need to do to keep yourself safe on yahoo (ie. dont’ accept files, don’t give out email address, so on and so forth). I hope this helps to quell your fears and worries, if you still have any questions or are still a bit worried and you want something explained to you, just ask us, and we’ll do the best we can to explain it to you. 🙂 Have fun, and chat safe. 😉
August 8, 2004 at 10:57 pm #74850kimmyMemberThanks for the info. We have been chatting for over a month and have met several times. He wants us to be ‘exclusive’ chat buddies. Of course I have been chatting with others and have told him otherwise. Personally, I think he is being a little freaky.
August 9, 2004 at 7:26 am #74851TwistoffateMemberZhugeliang,
I find this talk of ip information interesting. A friend of mine and I were messing around with Netstat one night. He told me my ip address was the same On two seperate nights. Now, I have a router and the information he repeated to me was a 65. so on and so forth . So I knew he had the router ip address( I hope I am using the correct terms) Anyway, Every time I log onto Yahoo messenger or on the Internet invisible, 5 seconds later he logs on.
Could you tell me your theory on this? Such as am I being paronoid or could there be something to this?
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