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September 2, 2006 at 9:33 pm #151465dvelez1985Member
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September 3, 2006 at 2:02 am #151458DangerBoyMembersarahtowny wrote:I don’t make a stand on most things, but the day bbb gives links to our members being able to download ways to add people on yahoo or any other IM will be the day I hang up my shirt!Cool, can’t wait to see you topless! 😛sarahtowny wrote:I get that we have buddy spy that’s not a big problem to me, if some wants to spy if I am on line but invisable then so what! Exactly, if someone wants to add my name to their list, SO WHAT! If they start buggin me, I’ll either block em or extract my revenge. I don’t have any problem with people adding me to their contact list. I only dislike the losers who pester me. It’s like telemarketing, I hate those flipping calls, but I can’t stop them from them adding me to there call list can I, but I can always add measures to block or ignore them right? Same thing here.sarahtowny wrote:I do not use Yahoo messager much. I like that on MSN I KNOW who has added me! My view is if MSN can let me know who has me on their list why can’t Yahoo ….:cool:What the flip does that have to do with anything? That ain’t the apps fault, it’s Yahoo’s fault.By the way, I think it’s pretty lame that you’d try to overrule this subject with a threat of quiting your holier-than-thou position at BIgBlueballs. Who cares about your lame “take a stand” anyway? I think it’s cool that the members are getting a chance to vote on there own opinions about this, instead of the usuall forum dictatorship – which you obviously seem to endorse.
September 3, 2006 at 3:17 am #151459amy_d_gParticipantI really do not like the idea of someone being able to add me to their list without permission. The way I see it, the only use for this is to add someone who does not want to allow you to add them. That is why Yahoo made it so that you have to send a request to get someone on your list. I generally only use messenger for keeping in touch with close friends and family members, along with a few people I have met online over the years, but I must get 10-15 new friend requests a week from strangers, which I automatically deny. I certainly don’t want just anyone to be able to see my online status as well as custom status messages, and I do not want to be bombarded with IM’s from strangers as soon as I log on. In addition, there are a few people that I know personally that I do not want to be able to see me online for various reasons, if they were able to add me without notification, I would see that as a violation of my privacy. I think people should have the right to decide who can have them on their list.
September 3, 2006 at 3:58 am #151456Jeff HesterKeymasterI think it’s worth noting that on AIM, you’ve always been able to add anyone without their permission or their knowledge, and you have no way of knowing who has added you.
Personally, I don’t care who adds me to their contact list. I routinely have people send add requests and I generally grant all of them. I don’t add them to MY list, unless I know who they are. But if they want to know if I’m online… what the heck to I care?
Great discussion. I love hearing dissenting and conflicting views. It’s good, healthy debate!
September 3, 2006 at 4:02 am #151464dvelez1985Member*omit*
September 3, 2006 at 7:19 am #151477tim2679MemberQuote:How about this, just post the source code and leave it for people who just want to learn.The problem with that is it would almost be the same thing as posting the program.
I think that it could be concidered the very reason this topic was made.
Not being sure if the program should be allowed to be posted or not.
I myself looked for the way to add someone without them knowing. Never
found anything, so instead of waiting for someone else do it I found the
answer myself by trail and error. What would be the point in giving you the
answer ? You won’t learn anything if someone else always gives you the answer.
Hell I have known how to add people without them knowing since June.
Myself I find no reason to post a program nor the source code.
Get an add request packet see how it works and create your own method.
I didn’t make my own method to add people without them knowing.
I did it to challenge myself, and to learn more and to see if it could actually
be done or not. Don’t get me wrong I am not being mean or anything. It’s
better for some to get a push in the right direction then to be given the answer.More or less adding someone without them knowing is not a hack. The information
is already there. It’s the same information that is sent when you would
normally add someone except for the information is changed a little.
Think about it, if someone made a program that uses the same method
that Yahoo Messenger uses to report spam bots something that could be
concidered a good things as you could report multiple bot names instead of
just one at a time. However you will always have “someone” that would use
it in manner that would not be concidered good.In the end Yahoo might patch things just like the P2P packets, boot packets
used by boot programs, ect. But at someone point someone, some time or
another will find away or a new way of making it work. Yahoo patches boot
packets all the time, yet there are still boot programs out there, and people
are still getting booted. This will always be true with any exploit or whatever
you wish to call it.I don’t see what the big deal is about really, I could care less is someone
adds me without me knowing. All they can do is see if I am online or not and
see my status message if I actully even put one up. Thats just my opinion
as you have seen others that would hate the fact that someone could add
then without them knowing, whatever there reasons are. I know I kinda
repeated some of the things I already said, so sorry in advance. lolOh and richter I mentioned the hacker thing simply so people would
know that they weren’t being hacked. You may have known but not eveyone
does. It was more for their benifit, as said before, your opinion is welcome.September 3, 2006 at 10:09 am #151479Puddys-WorldMemberVery interesting views .. and a lot of carefree attitudes i didnt expect but accept.
Let me back up about three weeks and tell you all why this program has become a debate here.
When the P2P packet become patched and a section of my program and of BS program became less effective i posted my program on the BS forum so ppl could still to some effect gain what they are looking for (to see when ppl are online). and ppl decided that they liked it.
so it became fairly popular fairly quicky, i made the program about 4 months ago, and not many ppl had it before BS became inafective.
Thus this debate is here because a patron of BBB requested a program that can do just what mine can so i delevired … what do i care right its out the now, other sites are posting it etc etcThe only reason i myself persued to have this debate here was for the simple fact that BS even though might not be endorsed here, it is accepted here, which led me to not understanding why Buddy Master Pro would not be.
How can ppl accept a program like BS which enabled you to scan someone not on your list to see if they were online, cam online, and even what room they might be in, and not accept mine that meerly puts a name on your list.For another point my program has been limited by Yahoo just the same as BS has – for example if the person you try to “secretly add” is online and showing as available the person will see the add. This was not the case in the fisrt couple weeks of the program but it is now. However the program still works and is available from my site so let the debate continue.
btw Tim i have no drama’s in giving the program to ppl as they seem to seek it, as far as giving a source for it whats the point? ppl mostly are to lazy to learn things for themselves anyways, and i simply dont have time to teach a whole bunch of ppl that dont give a toss anyways as im sure you dont either.
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September 3, 2006 at 6:04 pm #151466dvelez1985Member*omit*
September 3, 2006 at 7:47 pm #151461sarahtownyMemberDangerBoy wrote:Cool, can’t wait to see you topless! 😛
Exactly, if someone wants to add my name to their list, SO WHAT! If they start buggin me, I’ll either block em or extract my revenge. I don’t have any problem with people adding me to their contact list. I only dislike the losers who pester me. It’s like telemarketing, I hate those flipping calls, but I can’t stop them from them adding me to there call list can I, but I can always add measures to block or ignore them right? Same thing here.
What the flip does that have to do with anything? That ain’t the apps fault, it’s Yahoo’s fault.By the way, I think it’s pretty lame that you’d try to overrule this subject with a threat of quiting your holier-than-thou position at BIgBlueballs. Who cares about your lame “take a stand” anyway? I think it’s cool that the members are getting a chance to vote on there own opinions about this, instead of the usuall forum dictatorship – which you obviously seem to endorse.
I am very sorry it came that way it was actually a bit tongue and cheek. It’s not a programme I would like here but that’s up to our members not me! As I say I am sorry if I upset anyone.
September 3, 2006 at 11:10 pm #151474nozone5MemberCount me in as it is no problem to add. If that’s the worst thing that happens when you are on the internet or in chat programs then you are lucky.
October 30, 2007 at 8:57 am #151483persepolisMemberHi All,
I have just joined as I was searching on google for something totally oposite to all those programs mentioned. I have used them before and they are good..
I used no buddy utility to remove my id from another’s contact list now I realized I have made a mistake and was so childish. I did that a few times and now I want to undo that.
I am looking for a program that can actually add my id to another person’s list without asking them for request or having their password and accessing their account.
Now, who can tell me if such program exists? I am sure there should be one but google aint doing any good…
I am totally, desperately looking for such program….
Truely appreciated…
Cheers
BabakOctober 31, 2007 at 7:18 pm #151462DermotParticipantYou can’t at present.
November 16, 2007 at 6:20 pm #151467__GHOST__MemberThere are good reasons to be able to add someone without having to ask permission. One is when you’re reinstalling your pc and have to reinstall YM. Instead of bugging everyone when you reinstall YM, and if you have a long list, you don’t have to go through the task of trying to readd everybody and wait for them to get online to confirm, etc, you can restore your list right away when you can use a working buddy adder.
Another situation where an adder is useful is if you make a different account and want to add everyone on your friend list to the new account.
I personally often run one account on one pc and another account on another pc that is located in a different area of the house. That way I can talk to friends from one pc, and carry on the conversation in the other YM on the other pc while I’m working and have to go back and forth between the areas I’m working in.
With a large friend list, its very time consuming if you have to try to readd everybody whenever you reformat a HD or switch to a different Yahoo id. And some people get irritated at you when you keep having to readd them due to frequent reinstalling, etc.
November 16, 2007 at 6:29 pm #151468__GHOST__MemberWhen there have been working buddy adder programs available, none I’ve ever seen did anything except add them to your list. No passwords were revealed.
When I have tried a new buddy adder, I first try it between two of my own separate accounts on two different pcs on my own network, to make sure the adder words and doesn’t send the other person some kind of nasty message. I’ve seen a couple of adders that claimed to add a person anonymously, but when tested, actually sent the other person a booting threat message with your id on the message! So its always worth testing any buddy adder you try before relying on it.
Even the ones that sent a boot threat didn’t reveal any passwords or other information.
It’s also worth testing buddy deny programs before using them, to be sure that the program doesn’t send nasty messages to the person being denied.
Buddy adders and deniers are great too, for people who delete a friend whenever they get mad at the friend, and then want to readd the person when they get over their temper tantrum. I have a friend I would recommend usage of such a prog to, someone who is always deleting and readding according to their mood!
November 23, 2007 at 11:31 pm #151484persepolisMemberis there a good yahoo buddy adder? I am looking for one to be able to add the id ‘s that i have deleted without requesting from them because I know they will get upset and they assume I still have them in my list.
Thanks
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