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March 21, 2005 at 3:58 am #17462
detn8r
ParticipantWhile at work this afternoon, I was reading my provinces leading newspaper. One of the articles really shocked me, only because of how truthful it is, and how someone finally had something to write an article that is read by over 5 million each day, and even more online.
If you’re interested, please read on.
The lure of the Internet Cyber molesters
By KIM BRADLEYCAUTION: Some of the material in the following article may shock and offend you. It is included because we believe it is important that you understand the true nature of this threat to your children’s well-being. YOU CAN pour a coffee, tie your shoes, or comb your hair in the same time it takes a child to be sexually solicited online.
That’s what I discovered posing on the Internet as a 13-year-old girl. I was like most other skeptical adults when I first signed up to write this series. I knew Internet luring existed, but I didn’t realize how common or dangerous it is. Nor did I think I had the computer knowledge to seek out the online predators who prey on kids. Turns out, you don’t need to know anything about computers, except how to turn one on.
PREDATORS COME from all corners of the globe and they’re not shy about coming into your home via your computer. Take the man from the U.K. I chatted with the first time I signed on to a Yahoo chat room as a teen. In the first few lines of the chat, he had asked me where I was from, how old I was and if I was alone. Four lines and about 46 seconds into the chat he asked: “Wanna see my c—?”
I didn’t even get a chance to answer before I was asked to accept a webcam image from Marckwz2000. I accepted and there he was, being broadcast into my house, typing with one hand and playing with himself with the other.
Not far into the chat, I asked Mark, who claimed to be 19 years old, if 13 was too young for him.
What he said next really scared me.
“There’s no such thing as too young,” he responded.
“The younger the better.”
He had already added me to his buddy list that would show him whenever I was online, but I signed off that second and blocked his e-mail. Markwz2000 was the first in about 100 different men I chatted with online in the last few weeks.
I used to think it would be difficult to bump into a pervert online, that you would have to know where to look in order to find them. But the truth is, if you’re a child, they find you.
Take Yahoo for instance. One of many hunting grounds for pedophiles and perverts. Yahoo.com offers a wide variety of user group chat rooms that anyone can sign into. User groups are chat rooms created by a user, not by Yahoo, and can be accessed by anyone as long as the room isn’t full and the user has a Yahoo ID account.
These rooms can be about anything and everything, but from my experience, they’re all about sex. Take the topic “schools and education” in Yahoo chats for example. This is where I found Mark, or should I say Mark found me.
In this area, which is one some kids may turn to if they’re researching a school project, or looking for friends who are online, you can talk about “8-12 kiddies into sex,” or “girls 11-14 for much older men.”
At any given time there are hundreds of these user groups up and running, and they’re usually full.
Yahoo spokesman Colleen Finnegan refused to comment on its chat rooms but said in a written statement: “When notified of illegal content, we review every report and take appropriate action swiftly.”
Most of the chats start off the same.
As soon as you sign into a room, no matter what the topic, someone will almost immediately send you an instant message asking you for your “a/s/l”, which I recently learned means age/sex/location.
This is the true test for some men. After you’ve answered those questions, they’ll hopefully say that you’re too young and sign off, or they’ll continue chatting. In the chats I had, most wanted to talk to me despite my age.
Take tla53 (a/s/l: a 46-year-old man from Tennessee) with whom I chatted briefly the other afternoon.
After he learned how old I was, he wanted to know if I’d ever been with an older man.
Then he wanted to know if I’d ever seen an older man’s penis, and then he showed me his.
He chatted with me, asking me things about my previous sexual experience while he typed with one hand and showed me what he was doing with the other.
It didn’t matter to him that “my mother” may walk in at any second, he urged me to touch myself.
It got to the point where I didn’t need to respond anymore, he just kept talking.
Meanwhile, several other men were ringing in wanting to talk to me. At one time eight different men were masturbating on the screen at once, all believing they were talking to a 13-year-old girl from Canada.
I was always sure to tell them that I wasn’t alone and that my mom was in the house nearby.
It didn’t matter.
Take iceman77394, who said he was a 27-year-old from Alabama. He wanted to teach me how to play with myself even though I told him my mom was with me.
“Just one time,” he wrote.
“You’ll be fine,” he said when I refused.
“You can do it, baby,” he said.
Then there are men who are even more frightening than the obvious perverts. Like pilot0173, who identified himself as a 32-year-old from North Carolina. He found me after I signed into a room called “young girls wanting to run away.”
He believed I was unhappy and said he would drive to Toronto from North Carolina “if it meant my happiness.” I asked him if he thought it was too far away and he responded:
“If you were unhappy and wanted to leave, your happiness would be worth the drive.”
We continued to chat for a while and he told me he was a furniture manufacturer who drove “an okay car” that was in good enough shape to make the trip. He also told me that if I ever needed any help with anything, he could be here in a flash.
Then, as he signed off, he said: “If you ever need to talk, let me know. You have a friend here if you ever need one.”
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WEB HIT
-68% of kids say their parents never sit with them while they are online
– 15% of kids say they have met in person someone they only chatted with on the Internet
Source: The Young Canadians in a Wired World for Media Awareness Network, 2001, media-awareness.com
Source: Toronto Sun
March 21, 2005 at 4:05 am #117080Oreo
MemberThat’s so gross…there are too many sick-o’s in this world. There have been a lot of stories recently about local people (one was a professor) getting caught trying to pick up young children (but they are actually talking to the police…YAY police! That’s one sure fire way to get the bad guys…I really admire the people who catch these freaks.) Child molesters are disgusting and using the Internet is a way for them to get close to kids from the comfort of their own home. Make sure that if you don’t sit with your kids they at least know when something’s up and they should end the conversation and get an adult involved.
March 21, 2005 at 6:54 am #117083RabidKitten
ParticipantElisa, talking about police pretending to be teenagers and whatnot to catch these people, it reminds me of a movie I saw once, some years ago. A movie about this mother who just happened to come upon her young teenage daughter’s computer screen when she wasn’t home to find a log of an Instant Message talking about how she was going to meet this man in the park. Immediately the mother went to the park and found her daughter just as she was being led away by the hand and called after her, the man dropped the girls hand and just walked away.
The mother from then on got the blessing from the police to pose as a 15 year old girl and catch potential kidnappers. Of course, here’s the tricky part, the government got wind of it and actually almost arrested the mother and confinscated all of her equiptment and logs and everything. They said she was being frodulent and lying to people and they actually had a lot of red tape to clean up and I think actually released some men she’d found because the logs “could’ve been tampered” and “weren’t legal” and all of this. The sad part was, they took all of her equiptment away just as she found the man that had tried to abduct her daughter.Really it is sad when good people doing good things get caught up in red tape struggles.
March 21, 2005 at 2:06 pm #117078detn8r
ParticipantAnd the funny thing is, Yahoo doesn’t moderate any of it’s chatrooms. In the news paper atricle, it had screenshots of the Yahoo chat rooms available. That night, I went home and loaded up Yahoo Messenger and sure enough, every single one of those rooms were still there. The only thing that wasn’t there, were the Yahoo-user names that were included in the article.
Yahoo gives a damn enough to cancel user-accounts, but can’t try and stop the root of the problem by moderating it’s chat rooms? In my opinion, Yahoo should be seeing some legal issues right now.
March 21, 2005 at 7:24 pm #117081Oreo
MemberActually, Yahoo! European rooms have moderation. A lot of my friends in Italy were upset when that happened, but, then they just decided to connect to rooms via the US. I believe it was MSN that got rid of its chatrooms because of these online freaks.
March 21, 2005 at 11:56 pm #117082animepenguin
ParticipantThat’s the problem with those chatrooms, nothing but bots and perverts
March 22, 2005 at 2:39 am #117079detn8r
ParticipantThe pervs are not the only problem. If you look at some of these rooms, they’re not created by 30+ year olds. They’re started by teenagers, and the rooms just get out of hand.
And to be honest, the only way to moderate these rooms now-a-days is to use malicious coding, and boot ’em out. Thankfully, today’s ‘booters’ are much more advanced, and more mature.
If I had any legal background, I would be searching for loopholes are trying to put lawsuits against Yahoo Inc.
Yahoo Chat is a bloody known hot bed for pedophiles and yet Yahoo Americas don’t do a damn thing.
March 22, 2005 at 6:37 am #117084Ithaca1937
MemberDee snider made a movie about this it is called Strangeland.
IMDB.com’s plot summery wrote:A schizophrenic sadist by the name of Captain Howdy lures teens through the internet into his painful traps. A detective starts pursuing him after he captures his daughter. Eventually they catch up with him and send him to a mental hospital. But upon his release, the townspeople don’t accept the new, peaceful former Captain Howdy, and attack him. Howdy goes nuts again and in revenge starts everything all over, only worse. Can the detective stop him?…
Chat rooms used to be a good place to meet people from all over. I meet people from all over the US, and used to do RPing in the MSN rooms, but now if it isn’t a private room created by a friend I don’t go in to them. My friends laugh at me for always for saying to them “…cause knowledge is power” from SchoolHouse Rock, I think kids should be made more aware of the dangers.April 13, 2005 at 5:12 am #117085m3rcy
MemberI frequently used MSN chatrooms before they were closed. I experienced first hand, these sorts of people. Even though I’m male.. it didn’t stop them.
I agree that the yahoo chat rooms should be closed. This sort of behaviour is disgusting. It’s just pure filth. If this were my board I’d be swearing my head off right about now about how much I H A T E these types of people.
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