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March 26, 2005 at 4:17 am #17563
Arsenal
ParticipantHere’s my story:
This girl I know, her sn got “hacked” by this other kid I know. I go to school with both of them now, and have since about kindegarten. This kid claims that I hacked her sn a couple of YEARS ago. This is such a false accusation. I don’t know how to “hack” sn’s now and I certainly didn’t know how to a couple of YEARS ago. I don’t like this girl, well now I really hate her, but I never even knew her sn. This kid’s accusation seems to be more proof than all of my evidence. How could I hack her sn without knowing her sn to begin with? Everyone I say that to is like “OH IT’S POSSIBLE! DON’T USE THAT EXCUSE!”
Pretty much nobody believes me. Now, almost the whole school hates me because this girl is spreading rumors about me to everyone. She gives me dirty, threatening looks in homeroom (ugh, I have to see her EVERY day for four more years)
Worst part, my internet activity is being “watched”
I’m not allowed to IM anyone. The only thing I do now is browse the web, use MySpace and use Photoshop for web design.Anyone else have any other experiences like this?
P.S. I think I have to go talk to the cops/DA/FBI soon. Any ideas on what to say. I am innocent. Just, nobody believes me because this other kid “confirmed” the other kids rumor. Those two are friends, constantly lieing and getting into trouble and he was the one who went on her sn and sent IM’s to people.
March 26, 2005 at 4:53 am #117529shifter
ParticipantWell, where’s the proof? If they’re going to get law enforcement involved then they will definately need some sort of legitimate logs to back up there statements, otherwise its simply heresay. Besides, there really is no way to actually “hack” someones screenname. There are basically two ways to access someones account.
- Guessing your password or Secret question. If you put an easy to attain, or guessable password or question then you are asking for your account to be abused.
- By accepting a file from the “hacker” which allows he/she to remotely access and control your IM Client. This of course would rely on you being ignorant enough to actually accept and run this application.
So this alleged hack of yours would require some serious stupidity on the part of your accuser.
March 26, 2005 at 1:07 pm #117516Oreo
MemberI know this totally sounds lame…but RIGHT when this crap started and you realized you could not solve it within a day…you should have informed an adult (parent, teacher, etc…). Kids, GIRLS ESPECIALLY, can be really nasty. I’ve said it before, but it’s very true, that movie Mean Girls as funny as it was had a LOT of truth to it. Especially with the little that people know about PC’s and how they work; it’s better that at least ONE adult knows your side or you are going to be “the evil computer kid” ready to scew the world.
As far as this having to talk to the authorities, Shifter is completely correct, unless they have some proof (or a contact in the police department) that’s a scare tactic. I’ll take your word that you didn’t do it…so don’t worry…if they bring the police in; usually some of them are knowledgable in computers and will be able to trace whoever hacked you and remove you from all guilt. In fact, tell her you’d LOVE to talk to the police so you can clear this up. You’ve got nothing to hide, let the authorities work for you. 🙂
Good luck, and just realize this too, four years will FLY by…you won’t have to deal with her and people like her (as often)…and this girl will get what’s coming to her one way or the other, if this is the way that she acts normally. You have to believe in the balence of the universe and the crap people do to some one comes back and nails them four-fold. Maybe not right away, and not in the way you might think. You just have to sit back, wait, and when it happens you know the world is more fair than you might think right now.
Hang in there and just TRY to trust the authorities around you and keep telling the truth. 🙂March 26, 2005 at 1:25 pm #117535Arsenal
ParticipantThanks guys
Shifter- That’s EXACTLY what I said but nobody is listening to me because I’m a minor. I seem to not have any rights since I’m under 18. My dad doesn’t believe me.
Oreo- My Parents, and a lot of other parents do know about this. I was supposed to have a meeting with the police or something a while ago but it got cancelled. I don’t want to meet with them because they want to take my computer.
My computer=My LifeI need it for too many things to have it taken away.
March 26, 2005 at 1:46 pm #117517Oreo
MemberI understand you are very attached to your PC…but if that’s what they need to LOOK at to see you are not guilty…go for it. I’m guessing though, that your parents and the others found out about this from some one else or after it got out of hand. If this “meeting” was cancelled it means that there was either never a meeting or there was just nothing to prove that you are guilty/innocent. Perhaps, you should mention to the girl what happens to people when they falsly accuse others and waste the police department’s time…that in itself is a crime. Again, with the computer, a little time away from your PC is better than people thinking your are guilty. If you don’t want them to take it, tell them they are welcome to search it within your home. And that you need it for school but you’d be willing to let them look. Compromise. If you protest like that it will make you look guilty when you are not. And when they are looking at your PC you can ask them about what you can do about this girl setting you up.
March 26, 2005 at 2:07 pm #117536Arsenal
ParticipantI understand what your saying.
The way my parents found out is because her parents called my parents to tell them. That same day this girl confronted me at school about this thing.
This is sort of how it went
Her: Why’d you do it?
Me: Do what?
Her: UGH! Don’t play dumb with me, you KNOW what I’mm talking about
Me: No I don’t, sorry.
Her: Joe(the other kid) told me what you did
Me: Well, you should tell me what he said because I don’t know.
Her: Forget it I’ll just get you arrested and expelled.
Me: *thinks what the hell?*The truth is, I do need my computer for school. My teachers require most things typed. If I tell them the police have my computer they’ll say that’s the worst excuse.
Thanks for the info about falsely accusing others, I’ll look into that. However, it’s not her that accused me in the first place, she just won’t believe me. It’s this other kid and his friend who did the stuff that said I did it when they have proof they did it.
This whole thing is messed up. Theres proof against them and not me but I get punished. This kid has had two stories against me, neither of which are possible, I proved that already. But everyone jumped on his bandwagon and believes whatever he says.March 26, 2005 at 6:44 pm #117518Oreo
MemberGive it some time…the truth always comes out and like I wrote before, when people do that kind of thing they get tripped up…they mess with the wrong person. Plus, once time moves on they’ll do it to some one else and their credibility will start to be questioned. Just hang in there. 🙂
March 27, 2005 at 1:32 am #117537Arsenal
ParticipantMy biggest problem is what big of a deal this girl and her parents are making of it.
It’s a free screenname! No big deal, change your password and move on with life. There are much worse things that can happen. Her parents called my parents, local police, District Attorney, FBI and who knows who else. It’s really gotten out of hand.March 27, 2005 at 1:57 am #117527David
ParticipantArsenal wrote:My biggest problem is what big of a deal this girl and her parents are making of it.
It’s a free screenname! No big deal, change your password and move on with life. There are much worse things that can happen. Her parents called my parents, local police, District Attorney, FBI and who knows who else. It’s really gotten out of hand.They can’t do anything to you, don’t worry about that too much. You may try to request some proof of YOU doing this, and why they suspect that it is you and not anyone else. You could probably even request ISP logs from the night that it happened if the police are already involved, if you could obtain them, they would clear you.
March 27, 2005 at 2:54 am #117538Arsenal
ParticipantThe thing I don’t like is how his story keeps changing, If I was going to request logs I’d have to request my lifetime based on his stories. The first story was that it happened a couple weeks ago at school, now it’s a couple YEARS ago that I posted a program (yeah an executable on the internet without being a download… mmhmmm, I’ve never seen that but feel free to prove me wrong) on a website and showed everyone the link saying it was a porn site.
Yup, THAT’s what happened. (sarcastic)March 27, 2005 at 2:59 am #117519Oreo
MemberDave’s right about many things…there are logs, and you don’t need to worry too much about this. You are innocent and all they need to do is look at the logs and that will be that. I’m guessing this is your vacation from school either this week or next; don’t ruin it by worrying about this girl and her over-sensitive parents. They are probably more worried about their PC’s and home network than her password. If they had just gotten the two of you with your parents in a neutral place to talk about this, I can imagine it would not have spun into what it is. I know it’s easier said than done, being falsely accused is not fun, but right now the ONLY thing you can do is keep a clear head about everything and stay relaxed. Who told you the police and all of those other people are involved? Your parents? Her parents? Or this girl?
March 27, 2005 at 3:42 pm #117539Arsenal
ParticipantWho told me about the police? All three.
Luckily she’s on vacation this week. I’m not worrying about it too much.
but, you know those people who aren’t really your friends, but you talk to them a lot and have nothing against? You just don’t really hang out with them? Well, all those people hate me right now.
I’m very small, 5’3” and people are AFRAID of me. It’s weird.
You may agree with them on this but I don’t think stealing a password is identity theft.
My parents are like “YES IT’S A BIG DEAL, ITS IDENTITY THEFT! YOU COULD GO TO JAIL FOR THAT!!!”
I just say “What they did, yes, what I am being accused of, no.”The other weird thing is that first the accuser said I “overlooked” her password in the school library as she typed it in. But then it grew into I programmed something a couple years ago and posted it on the internet.
I didn’t know how to program a few years ago and I vaguely do now.It doesn’t really bother me too much anymore I just get all these threatening looks at school from the people involved, I laugh though.
It bothered me a LOT right when it came out but it doesn’t too much anymore.March 27, 2005 at 4:49 pm #117515DJHyperbyte
MemberOreo wrote:Dave’s right about many things…there are logsWell, yes. But an ISP sees several gigabytes of data pass under their eyes each hour. Logs aren’t kept for as long as you might think. 🙂March 27, 2005 at 5:29 pm #117520Oreo
MemberActually, at the very least, stealing a password is not ethical and it often can lead to other problems. I mean, all you did was notice a password and look what’s going on. If you hadn’t bothered to do any of that, no one would think that you were guilty of what they are accusing you of right now. This is, I guess, what one would call “learning the hard way,” so long as you have learned. The important thing is to be honest with everyone, including yourself and you’ll be fine.
March 27, 2005 at 10:21 pm #117531FirefoxMan
MemberI’m just dumbfounded about this whole thing. Has nobody yet realized that this girl has no proof that you did anything!? Here’s some advice, be careful about what you say, NEVER put any potentially damning evidence in writing (i.e. bashing this girl online). Make sure that you only have polite interactions with us and your peers when it comes to this subject. If the authorities do get involved, which is REALLY dumb, they might do that whole search your computer stuff. If they were to find anything on the computer where you made personal attacks toward this girl or something to a similar effect, it makes you look worse. So try and be a nice person until this blows over :)! But don’t worry much about this, you seem to be handling this very well!
I know you feel singled out now by your peers, but I promise there are those who believe you’re innocent… believe me, I live in a small town where “everyone else’s opinion counts! And if people think my opinion or way of doing things is wrong, then I’m going to be condemned for the next 4 years of my highschool life!!!” (that was sarcastic by the way). Although you don’t seem to have allies, you do, people talk, and I can bet money that a lot of your peers think she’s crazy and believe in your innocence, they just don’t want to say anything because it’s “not cool with everyone else.” So hang in there! 🙂
I know that was more of a pep talk that anything else, but hey, it works! 😀
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