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March 27, 2005 at 10:35 pm #117528DavidParticipantOreo wrote:Actually, at the very least, stealing a password is not ethical and it often can lead to other problems. I mean, all you did was notice a password and look what’s going on. If you hadn’t bothered to do any of that, no one would think that you were guilty of what they are accusing you of right now. This is, I guess, what one would call “learning the hard way,” so long as you have learned. The important thing is to be honest with everyone, including yourself and you’ll be fine.
I think that is what he was accused of, but not what he actually did.
March 27, 2005 at 10:47 pm #117521OreoMemberHe was mentioning that he “overlooked” a password though and that’s what blossomed into this huge pile of…for lack of a better word: crap! But he mentioned this is his post:
arsenal wrote:You may agree with them on this but I don’t think stealing a password is identity theft.It’s certainly not ID theft, but some one who was not listening well, could take “overlooked” as “stole” and then there you go…all of this trouble…
I forgot to mention above, all of those people you just kind of know, but are not friends nor enemies (acquaintances is what I think you mean 🙂 ) Things will get better with them…I’m guessing you are in 8th grade…things kind of suck then no matter what…but you’ll realise some things are going to suck worse when you get to 9th and some things will get better, then 10th the same thing. But, it does get better 🙂March 28, 2005 at 2:04 am #117540ArsenalParticipant1. I’m in 9th grade.
2. Let’s clear this up: I was ACCUSED of overlooking her password first, I didn’t know.
Here’s his FIRST story:
Matt(me) saw her type her password into the school’s computer one time then told me(joe, the other kid). Then his other story was that It happened a couple of years ago.So just so we are clear, I didn’t see her password, thats what I was accused of.
2 things I find kind of funny are: I could get this girl expelled by now with all of the “illegal” I guess you could call them, things that she does at school.
The other thing is she said specifically “Now I’m never going on AIM at school again”
Heh, you weren’t supposed to in the first place. hehe, so if any of the school faculty ask, I’ll be SURE to tell them that.
If anyone wants to see this girl, I have a link to her MySpace profile. It’s quite funny how much of a hypocrite she is. She talks about how she wishes her picture of her half naked wasn’t up there but it is. Well, you put it up there, stop complaining. She tells people to stop calling her a whore but “It’s a tough business but someone’s got to do it”
Ok, not when you’re a freshman in highschool should you be whoring it up.BTW: If, I repeat the IF, they take my computer, technically they can’t do anything. If they go past the login screen I can have something against them, not sure what. But since both logins are password protected, its illegal for them to crack that password unless I comply and give it to them. Luckily, nobody can backstab me this time and give it up because noone has it, noone could guess it either. It’s in another language. MUAHAHA
March 28, 2005 at 3:09 am #117532FirefoxManMemberBe careful Arsenal. The name calling could get you in trouble (i.e. calling this chick a hypocrite)… I on you’re side, but remember, don’t put anything in writing that could be used as damning evidence.
March 28, 2005 at 4:11 am #117541ArsenalParticipantA motive isn’t very good evidence. I could hate someone who just got murdered, that doesn’t mean I did it. I have the right to freedom of speech, and text. I can say almost, whatever I want. That in no way incriminates me, but it can’t help either.
March 28, 2005 at 4:11 am #117522OreoMemberI know it’s hard to relax when you feel you have to defend your actions…in the unlikely event they sieze your PC, you’ve got nothing to hide…if you act like you do they’ll have more reason to look farther and you’ll have to deal with this for even longer until you’re cleared. It’s easy to prove what happened if she was indeed on AIM at school….perhaps if she found a way to get on the Internet that way, some one else knows how to get into the school’s network and took her password…maybe it was Joe? Maybe Joe likes this girl and started all of this to get on her good side…
It’s not worth your sanity and time to worry about this right now. And FireFox is completely right…even though it feels good to call her names because of the things she’s putting you through…take the high road…don’t sink to her level.March 28, 2005 at 4:33 pm #117542ArsenalParticipantI’m not calling her names because of this, I’ve always hated her. She really is annoying, a lot of people think so too but they still side with her.
March 30, 2005 at 1:54 am #117548punkdiva369MemberThat’s some serious crap going there, girl. Bring proof that you didn’t “hack” this persons account. Sounds like a prissy girlscout who needs a good ol’ beating to me. She’s doing this to you b/c she’s jealous of you or sumtin. I’d be pissed if I were you. Good luck getting them to believe you. That’s just terrible. I believe you. LYLAS!
March 30, 2005 at 10:57 pm #117523OreoMemberArsenal wrote:I’m not calling her names because of this, I’ve always hated her. She really is annoying, a lot of people think so too but they still side with her.But the point is still the same…you don’t have to sink to her level. From your description of her activities…she sounds like she’ll find herself in a whole lot of trouble all on her own. You know you’ll enjoy your life much more if you don’t repond to her nasty tactics and at the same time…she’ll go nuts trying to make you react. It’s a win-win…. What she did is something that you obviously cannot ignore, but come on…she has no proof because you didn’t do it. Let HER scramble to try to prove you are guilty…it didn’t happen so she’s got no proof…she’s going to end up looking like an idiot…keep that in mind.
March 31, 2005 at 9:44 pm #117543ArsenalParticipantJust so we are clear, again:
I am a boy, she is a girl. One comment made me think someone thought I was a girl also.Also, I watch a lot of law shows on TV and I’ve learned that the burden of proof is on the prosecution. As the defense, I just have to sit back and watch them handle the case. If they don’t produce substantial evidence (I forget the term) then I get off. Which, they obviously can’t.
Also, she didn’t blame me at first. It was that other kid, when he got in trouble, threw it all on me. I’m still mad at her and she is still at fault for spreading the childish, immature, rumors she spread about me.
Thanks for all of your support everyone!
April 5, 2005 at 8:27 pm #117514JoelbieMemberFYI. If you are innocent (and i’m not saying you aren’t) then you should think about sue-ing them for slander, because it is giving you a bad reputation (a hacker or whatever) which you do not deserve. It would work, I’ve seen it happen multiple times in situations like this.
An example of which: A lady I know’s son had just started his first job, and one of the workers there was an old neighbor. The neighbor was telling everyone that he was a petty thief, and that you should watch your purse etc. To make a long story short: Those allegations were not true, and his family sued the old neighbor for slander. They won of course and the neighbor learned the lesson of not lying.
Anyways that’s just my 2cents
April 5, 2005 at 11:05 pm #117533FirefoxManMemberOh yeah, way to take the high road there JoelBie:rolleyes:… don’t listen to him. Trying to sue someone costs money y’know, they’re called legal expenses and you’ve obviously never heard of them. Arsenal is also only a highschool student. Everyday kids “slander” other students, it’s just what goes on in high school. I know what this girl did to Arsenal was really mean, but it doesn’t call for legal action.
April 5, 2005 at 11:30 pm #117524OreoMemberYet bringing the situation did not call for the police to be brought in…and yet they were, if nothing else…a “THREAT” of a law suit might shut their mouths.
April 6, 2005 at 1:50 am #117544ArsenalParticipantI offered for her to sue me for this. Because no person, other than you guys (THANKS!) will listen to me and I know at least a judge/jury(doubted) will because they are required to but everyone’s like noo it won’t need to come to that. Well if I have to talk to the police, get HARASSED by several different groups of people about it, getting phonecalls from the District Attorney, from her parents, I think it just MAY BE important enough to go to court.
BTW: I find this funny. This kid, Joe, that everyone thinks must be sooo trustworthy and they believe him, he’s on Academic probation AND is on law probation(never heard of that though) because he got into a fist fight with some kid and he sued him. lol =]
April 6, 2005 at 2:10 am #117525OreoMemberGee they sound like two “wonderful” people (I hope you hear the sarcasm in this). If they continue on their paths…people (who now are convinced you are “evile” will look back at this and feel crappy for giving you such a hard time. But, you can always hope that people will change when they get older. In any case, it sounds like things are improving somewhat. Just stick to the truth as you have been. 🙂
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