Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
Stormy0505
Member@Dermot 225410 wrote:
Yahoo! outsourced chat to a third party, they will just pass on reported issues to those responsible.
Nods. Yep, management by diminished responsibility, it`s an old fave. I could write their next press release:
“We were concerned at the level of dissatisfaction amongst our chat users so we have implemented a third party management program (we were too hopeless to manage our own servers) that will minimize client disatisfaction (good riddence to them) and at the same time free valuable resources (it doesn`t make us a lot of money so we don`t give a sod) We will be monitoring the progress of the new management (it`s all their fault now)
Useless.
Stormy0505
Member@Dermot 225269 wrote:
Not sure what rooms you frequent but i have and go to many rooms and the bot count is down as to what it was before the captcha implementation
The fact is captcha has been broken well before yahoo implemented it into chat and people will always find a way around security implements…and the fact these automated bots are in chat is not a “bug”
There are many alternatives to seeing bots in chat and you can edit your filters to block links and other malicious content.
Chat clients or ALG’s for chat will allow you to block near all SPAM bots.
Yahoo! Chat is a free service and thus will get exploited today and tomorrow
Subscription chat just does not work, look at msn chat and how long it lasted going down that road.
How many bots have your reported today?
Yahoo! spamguard just adds that bot to your ignore list and flags it as a possible bot, yahoo will not employ monitors or employees to sift through chat everyday looking for malicious users.
Yahoo! is about making money with their chat service, not losing it.
In answer to your comments:
I frequent a lot of rooms and i love having sex bots in the electronics rooms.
If captcha was “broken well before yahoo implemented it” then why bother implementing it??
“There are many alternatives to seeing bots in chat and you can edit your filters to block links and other malicious content.” The answer to this is that the average user is not that tech savvy, so your answer is “if you don`t have the skills to avoid the bots then we don`t care about you”
“How many bots have your reported today?”
Every single bloody one“Yahoo! Chat is a free service and thus will get exploited today and tomorrow”
Why? Why should yahoo not protect the integrity of it`s system? Do they have no control over their own system or servers???“Subscription chat just does not work, look at msn chat and how long it lasted going down that road.” There are other solutions
“Yahoo! is about making money with their chat service, not losing it.” Exactly, how many registered users do they have now? a million? so a subscription of $10.00 USD would make them $10,000,000.00 USD? Lets rationalize the figures, realistically lets say 500,000.00 users, that`s still $5,000,000.00, enough to hire some decent staff maybe?
Then there is the flow on effect of a good product generating further business/patronage, i thought that needed highlighting as you completely missed the original complaint that it was the number of bots keeping him out of the rooms, a DoS rather than the bots in themselves, yahoo provides a service and denies access through mismanagement!! What delicious irony 🙂
The problem with the yahoo chat rooms is not a procedural one, nor is it lack of resources, when they were implicated in some nasty goings on the changes came along very swiftly. The problem here is caused by inferior sub unit management
The solution is:
1. Employ decent management with a brief to opening a new a revenue stream and actually producing a profit from an under utilized resource.
The end result being:
1.Provision of a product that does NOT detract from the yahoo brand and is a pendant to their other market offerings.
As you may or may not be aware, the use of messenger systems in business and marketing is growing, after testing i rejected yahoo. How you can ignore an opportunity to provide a niche product is beyond me.
All decent replies will be responded to.
ST
-
AuthorPosts