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April 10, 2006 at 1:08 pm #142054Eagle_KiwiMember
I liked it – seems a good topic, and a good bunch of 4 to discuss it.
I do feel some (more?) editing could be useful here, as on #2 that I was on. I feel it would be beneficial Jeff to listen through carefully, and judiciously remove certain sentences or comments at times – not for obscenity I hope, but just most of us tend to “overtalk” in an ad-lib situation like this, perhaps repeating ourselves, or discussing points at a little too much length. (Never let’s become “tedious” ๐ )
Chopping out occasional chunks can make the whole presentation sharper and snappier, I think.
The same applies for the occasional pregnant pause, when noone takes up the subject immediately. I think if participants knew that long silences would be easily edited out afterward, then there wouldn’t be quite the pressure to “say something… ANYTHING!” at times.
As for voice quality, can I suggest when using a mic that you ensure your “mic boost” is on (I set mine on and leave it on, permanently). This should then mean you DON’T have to get real close to it!
Having to speak within an inch of the mic every breath is picked up, AND a head sway of an inch makes sound fluctuate terribly.
But a foot away, neither of these problems are issues at all.And… I liked Sarah’s suggestion near the end for listeners to check the Show Notes AND to add comments there. Great :))
I guess in a few days, again, I’ll be thinking T G I F!
April 10, 2006 at 7:14 pm #142005OreoMemberEagle_Kiwi wrote:And… I liked Sarah’s suggestion near the end for listeners to check the Show Notes AND to add comments there. Great :))I guess in a few days, again, I’ll be thinking T G I F!
That was actually me…didn’t know I sound like I’m from Yorkshire…or perhaps it was us two, quiet girls plotting a BBB take over in the background that confused you. ๐
Ryan is totally right…the first one was brilliant, more fun….but the sound….eek! I think we basically had the topic…we consripted Ryan in as our unwitting participant yesterday, but he was perfect IMHO. Perhaps just an order of topics is all we need. If we make these too scripted it will be a total turn off for people.
I still think some day Sarah, Rabid and I need to take an old thread from the CC each week and discuss….it could be lots of fun and informational on a personal level. ๐
April 10, 2006 at 7:23 pm #142017Someguy03Membersarahtowny wrote:Someguy, sorry I really don’t get your points on this one.Firstly we are only on our third podcast.
The first one was based on what bbb is about and an overview of what we are about. In order for members to understand our forum. As you will know Spike highlighted our reputation system.
The second podcast was discussing different types of IM out there, after all that’s what we are about…
There has been snippets of news Shifter discussed Thoughtsafe and I am sure there will be more news to come.
I know it’s a fast paced world but surely the great thing about a podcast, is the fact that you don’t have to listen to the whole thing all in one go? You can save it and listen to it when you have time.
I appreciate your comments on this don’t get me wrong but I really don’t feel me or anyone else going into a chat room would have made any difference at all to what we discussed.
Basically my point is that we have only just started with this so there will be a learning curve, but personally just hearing IM news and more news would be a total bore. It’s just finding the happy medium and I am sure in time we will.
Personally I like the way this is going.
Yes its only our 3rd podcast, and thus needs constructive critisizm ๐
Going into a chat was my poor example of how we should make our podcasts more exclusive. That, “You can only get it on Big Blue Ball” feeling. Thats why interviews are so great.
And yes, just rolling news headlines would be boring: What I ment was that I feel our discussions need to be geared towards whats happening now. Neowin’s podcasts, for example, usually feature the team having discussions amongst themselves about the latest happenings (Google Wi-Fi in San Francisco, Delayed Vista, Aquisition of Alienware, etc.). I think this is an important part of podcasting.
April 10, 2006 at 8:55 pm #142045DrBroccoliParticipantBeen busy lately, I am about to listen to it, I’ll post later with a few suggestions if I have any :).
April 10, 2006 at 8:56 pm #142048MrEggsaladParticipantOreo wrote:That was actually me…didn’t know I sound like I’m from Yorkshire…or perhaps it was us two, quiet girls plotting a BBB take over in the background that confused you. ๐Ryan is totally right…the first one was brilliant, more fun….but the sound….eek! I think we basically had the topic…we consripted Ryan in as our unwitting participant yesterday, but he was perfect IMHO. Perhaps just an order of topics is all we need. If we make these too scripted it will be a total turn off for people.
Heh, I had mentioned to Sarah how much you two sounded alike to me (kinda why I never said any of your names…), thanks for saying I was perfect ๐ I think it needs to be a bit more scripted, maybe we should include a little more news in a conversation style. I really like how it sounds though(well the content..not so much the sound issues :p), I think conversation is the way to go. And Someguy03, that day I had just been in a chatroom and accidentally ran into one of those odd people.
April 10, 2006 at 10:18 pm #142012DavidParticipantWho are these podcasts directed at? BigBlueBall’s member base is on average, between the ages of 14-18. Why would they care about IM Safety? I know this is not something I’d spend any amount of time listening to. Frankly, it’s not interesting, and I don’t care. I can’t think that anyone else my age would care either. This is directed at my parents—not even mine; ones with younger children. Is that who is listening to this?
I have to agree with Kyle—this should be more news oriented, or if it’s a discussion, at least have some form of argument. If you’re going to spend a lot of time talking, then make it interesting.
>> I know it’s a fast paced world but surely the great thing about a podcast, is the fact that you don’t have to listen to the whole thing all in one go? You can save it and listen to it when you have time.
Almost no one does that, and few podcasts are oriented as such that you are to stop in the middle and resume at a later time.
I’m not saying things are horrible, but I think these shows need to be reevaluated for who the audience is, since it will never take off like this. And I promise I’ll buy a new headset soon enough and join in…
April 10, 2006 at 11:49 pm #141998Jeff HesterKeymasterOne more time… THIS IS NOT THE PODCAST!
This was recorded as one segment of a podcast. I’m not sure I’ll be able to clean it up enough to be usable, but I think the content is valid.
Yes, Dave will not be interested. I suspect that each podcast will contain bits that you are not interested in. Variety is the key.
With that in mind, I’m reposting the podcast format:
- Intro
- Review of the top IM stories, with brief commentary ~3-5 min.
- “Tip of the Week” or “Rant of the Week” ~1 min.
- Featured Topic ~7-10 min.
- Listener feedback ~1 min.
- Preview of next podcast ~30 sec.
- Outro
In this case, the IM safety bit could be the featured topic. It’s just one segment of the show.
I think it’s a viable topic, but I agree that it could be tweaked to be more relevant to teens and twenties. Here’s a few suggestions:
- How to identify an online predator? (Could this be done with some humor? Maybe spoofing the Homeland Security dude?)
- Protecting your IM screenname (teens probably aren’t worried about identity theft, per se, but I see a lot of posts about their IM accounts being hijacked — the issue is really similar)
- One for the ‘rents… (what can parents do to protect young’uns)
- YOUR IDEA HERE
Thanks for all the feedback — it’s been excellent. Just keep it coming and we’ll end up with a
goodGREAT podcast.April 11, 2006 at 12:13 am #142033RabidKittenParticipant*grins mischeviously* Spoofing you say? Homeland security you say? *gears get turning*
April 11, 2006 at 12:44 am #142053NessaParticipantJeff wrote:I think it’s a viable topic, but I agree that it could be tweaked to be more relevant to teens and twenties. Here’s a few suggestions:- How to identify an online predator? (Could this be done with some humor? Maybe spoofing the Homeland Security dude?)
- Protecting your IM screenname (teens probably aren’t worried about identity theft, per se, but I see a lot of posts about their IM accounts being hijacked — the issue is really similar)
- One for the ‘rents… (what can parents do to protect young’uns)
- YOUR IDEA HERE.
I liked to over-all content but to make it more relevant to teens the second bullet is very important. Many teens especially knowing Yahoo! users (which has the highest rate of taken screennames, which seems unimportant but many use their e-mail for important things which they need to be reminded not to do if they plan to use that id in public rooms) want to know how to protect their password. I never did chatroom chatting but did game room chatting and the ages there range from 13-50. Surpisingly enough most of them are ages 18-24, so this whole IM safety pertains to them too. It may seem like they don’t care but when visiting those rooms half of them spend their time fending off these predators, or so i’ve noticed, so they do care. So in my opinion the content is good just the sounds needs changing. That plus the other items that will later be included in the podcast would make it a good one.
April 11, 2006 at 1:35 am #142013DavidParticipantJeff wrote:Yes, Dave will not be interested. I suspect that each podcast will contain bits that you are not interested in. Variety is the key.My point is that I represent a large part of your audiance, and if I’m not interested–neither will they be. And as HJ said, that second bullet is very important. That’s what’d get me a lot more interested.
April 11, 2006 at 10:11 am #142042sarahtownyMemberDavid wrote:My point is that I represent a large part of your audiance, and if I’m not interested–neither will they be. And as HJ said, that second bullet is very important. That’s what’d get me a lot more interested.I get your point David but hey do a search on bbb for on-line safety – might just change your mind.;) I do understand bbb is made up mainly of under 20’s but does that mean we leave the rest of our members out?
There have been parts of the podcasts previously done that were not relevant to me and I am sure there will be more.
Remember this is just segment of this months podcast and well I think it’s relevant to alot of people out there.
April 11, 2006 at 1:27 pm #142006OreoMemberNot to mention with all of the things happening and IN the news lately, parents (and kids) will be looking for a place to find information….and even though you say that you “represent” your age range…..errr…let’s face it…as I’ve been telling you all along…you are a bit more “uber” , tech savvy and mature than the majority of kids your age….how many other teens are on staff here?? Not that many….and through out the whole world? And just because I’m turning *EEK* 29 in two months does not mean “I’m out of it” and have “lost touch.”
April 11, 2006 at 7:50 pm #142014DavidParticipantOreo wrote:Not to mention with all of the things happening and IN the news lately, parents (and kids) will be looking for a place to find information….and even though you say that you “represent” your age range…..errr…let’s face it…as I’ve been telling you all along…you are a bit more “uber” , tech savvy and mature than the majority of kids your age….how many other teens are on staff here?? Not that many….and through out the whole world? And just because I’m turning *EEK* 29 in two months does not mean “I’m out of it” and have “lost touch.”And if I’m *mature* and still don’t care, then why would someone who’s less mature? I can’t say I know anyone under the age of 20 that cares at all.
My point isn’t that it’s stupid or useless, just that we need to be careful about how interesting the topic is. As I said, I like bullet #2, but just be careful we don’t let things get carried away into a bunch of adults/parents talking about how bad myspace is and how people put their information on the internet.
And I have read most of the threads here and elsewhere in safety, and they tend to be redundant and basic, thus uninterresting. I know I shouldn’t put my information out there–I don’t care, there’s enough info on this public board alone to find out my interests, address, phone number, school and even get a photo.
April 11, 2006 at 9:08 pm #141999Jeff HesterKeymasterGreat points Dave. I’m still going ahead with a featured topic in this week’s podcast.
I suspect that most of our podcast listeners are older than you, and not every podcast will strike a chord with everyone. For instance, not everyone is interested in multi-network IM (last week’s featured topic). That’s the breaks.
April 12, 2006 at 6:27 am #142055Eagle_KiwiMemberUm, hmmm, I’m probably near the opposite end of the age scale – my children are adults, and grandchildren still in nappies (or, “diapers” for American listeners, I believe ๐ ).
But I also am totally disinterested in internet safety, child protection, etc from a personal viewpoint.I accept though that many others are very interested, so I just wait for next thing that directly interests ME.
Of course it’s impossible to always please everyone. But this does raise an question of choice of style, to please/attract the most listeners:
- EITHER… Include a broad range of diverse topics every issue, so everyone will find SOMETHING that interests them (but they also must sift thru stuff that doesn’t!)
- OR… Each issue with a clear theme and focus, with 90-100% devotion to that theme (so those NOT interested can just skip that issue)
I think perhaps, as a consumer, I’d tend to favour the second – but I really have no idea of the nature of the target audience, or even the actual audience at present (though the number of 1261 seems to reverberate around my head a bit ๐ )
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