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June 11, 2005 at 10:19 pm #123891NessaParticipantEEDOK wrote:I believe neither of these happened.. Beat a theory like that!
So your theory is…? You don’t believe in those two, so what do you believe happened? I am curious to know.June 11, 2005 at 11:02 pm #123888chikenkickerMemberim curious to know too now, if there was no creation(my beliefs) and no evoloution and big bang theory(most of you) what else is there?
June 12, 2005 at 12:30 pm #123879QwertyMemberchikenkicker wrote:im curious to know too now, if there was no creation(my beliefs) and no evoloution and big bang theory(most of you) what else is there?I think you’re a little confused.Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of the universe.
The big bang theory is not the only theory, it’s just the most accepted.
IN repect to creation, it just does not make sense. Humans have evolved slighty in the last 3000 years. You can’t say we were created as we are now. The theory of evolution has been proved to a large extent. If you look into it, just as you look into the bible, you will understand more than just its superfical meaning.
Same goes for the big bang, look into it before you discredit it.
June 12, 2005 at 1:08 pm #123872Jeff HesterKeymasterI believe in God and I believe in creation, and I do believe in evolution, but to a small extent. Many question, well if God created everything then who created Him? Well the same question can just be applied to those big bang type theories. If that is real, well, where did these gases, this sudden big bang, this random spark of life begin? And then who created that? So things go both ways and the questions just keep coming.
For example, an atheist says there is no God—in other words, that God doesn’t exist. But can you prove it? No, you can’t, any more than someone a thousand years ago—before the invention of the telescope—could have proved that other galaxies didn’t exist. All you can say is that you don’t believe there is any evidence for God’s existence. But what if there is evidence that you haven’t yet examined? In other words, you have faith that God doesn’t exist—but you can’t actually prove it.
Some scientists who believe the Bible account of God’s creation think that it can fit with some aspects of evolutionary theory. They use terms like “progressive”; or “continuous” creation. For example, some suggest that the days of creation in chapter one of Genesis might be “age days”; that is, long periods of time in which God created and then helped things to develop.
To summarize why I believe in creation rather than random explosions or whatever you want to call it, well, being in the medical field has further strengthened that. Seeing a human body skinned only to the muscle has left a quite a large impact on me. The body is really a work of art. Every little thing inside you has a job, every cell and microorganism working with one another to make the human body work. How every human body has their own unique signature right on their fingertips. That itself is just marvelous to me.
The truth is, you just can’t put facts behind faith, you just see it, and feel it with your heart, and it becomes more real than you ever thought possible. It is like staring at a painting, and suddenly your eyes open and truly see the work and significance behind it. I just find this beautiful work of nature, of animals, of our human body, earth, planets and all we know to be a wonderful work of art. I see an artist in front of the canvas, a delicate stroke of the hand that made a beautiful painting, rather than a bucket of paint spontaneously jumping on the canvas to form art.
June 12, 2005 at 9:27 pm #123873OreoMemberWell, considering I AM an Anthropologist AND a Historian…(yes…I do have degrees and have practiced BOTH..all this besides teaching!) You could always go back to the beliefs of many of the founding fathers of the USA….a belief in the “watch fob god” that God simply created the earth (wound it like a watch) and then let it go on it’s own…i.e. created the rocks and such…and let it go from there. The first person I met who did not believe in Evolution was my roommate at university who happened to be a Lutheran. I was amazed! More and more I’ve met more people…but honestly…NONE of them can convince me otherwise. There ARE many questions of how the universe was created and NONE of them can be more than a theory because we cannot go back in time and see how it happened NOR create another universe and wait thousands upon thousands of years to find out if it’s true.
It comes down to what you believe. I believe in religion and in science, there are many instances when it seems that they don’t mix….those are the times in which you have to look at what you know from both sides and make a choice.June 26, 2005 at 4:59 am #123876TigerbladeParticipanti know this topic hasnt been active for a little while, but i noticed this and had to comment on it:
Qwerty wrote:I believe in evolutuon, if god created the earth and all the aniamlas we see today, how come we have fossils of animals that arnt around today? The story of adam and eve is just somthing people thoguht up ages ago to explain where people came from. That’s all it is.because animals go extinct. is it really that difficult to figure that one out? even today species are going extinct all the time, that’s why we have endangered species lists and so on.as for the second half of that comment, the story of adam and eve MIGHT be just a story. that’s all it is, in your opinion. you cannot make factual statements about something you have no actual knowledge about, like whether or not such a story is true.
June 26, 2005 at 4:37 pm #123883Crazy PenguinMemberI think the most important thing to remember when your looking at fossils and creation is not that we have fossils of animals that are no longer alive today, but that among the fossils there are very few animals which ARE alive today… so if God created all animals at the same time as genesis says… why aren’t they in the fossil record? And the fossil record does seem to provide strong evidence of progression in animal forms… which surely God in his infinite wisdom wouldn’t have bothered with, he’d have jsut gone straight to the best forms.
I’m still of the opinion that there is a lot of strong evidence for the process of evolution, and very little for intelligent design.
June 30, 2005 at 8:44 pm #123885AqeelParticipantI got a link just look at it, it’s all about evolution and creation.
http://www.hyahya.org -
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