May 8, 2006 at 11:20 pm #22943
I could be wrong but it seems to me I've discovered how you can tell if someone on your Yahoo Messenger list wants you to see them as permanently offline.
Forgive me if this has been mentioned already. I've noticed lately, and perhaps it's a glitch they'll fix, that when I log on as invisible and then try to use stealth/online presence to choose to let someone see me as online that it doesn't register. Their name stays in italics and my status will still say invisible to all. This only happens for some people on my list.
I have two yahoo id's so I went to one and used stealth to have the other id see me as permanently offline, went back to the other id and sure enough it will not let me change status (in stealth/online presence) to ‘online' for the previous id. I suppose this does not mean much really because I've done that to people on my list yet I don't hate them, I just prefer to only chat to them when I have time, but just thought I would mention it and see whether others agree this is happening for them as well. Thanks!
SueMay 9, 2006 at 2:07 pm #144116NettiMember
thats a very interesting theory, and you're probably right. Those are the odd things that are truly glitches.
I love to try a test of a bunch of my friends.. some who have it on and those to don't, then try a test to see if you can tell who does and who doesn. lol
But I have a feeling you're right.May 9, 2006 at 3:12 pm #144122StrigoiMember
I think you have something there but what do you do if that person has you permanently offline before he logs in as invisible?May 9, 2006 at 4:29 pm #144118mitibbsMember
Hi to all, I've had the same problem with one of my friends on my messenger. I didn't have them as permanently offline, and when I tried to show them that I was online, messenger would not accept it and show me as online to them. So I checked that person as permanently offline, and went back and checked them to let them know that I was online, and that worked and showed that they were able to see me online and also showed me that I was visible to one. I seem to have trouble with just this one contact.. So I am beginning to think that this contact has done something, and I did think that possibly the contact had checked me as permanently offline.May 9, 2006 at 5:07 pm #144125willoMember
I have problems with just one person too…and its possible they blocked me…
I tried a test with a friend she blocked me but I did manage to make me appear online to her…then she unblocked me and the next time I was invis and tried to appear online to her it DIDNT work…..so I blocked her and then tried….success….
oh boy isnt this complicated????May 10, 2006 at 2:34 am #144126
I tried with my two id's to see if the recipient actually can see you as online even though your own status does not change to ‘available (to 1 contact)' and it worked.
As mentioned somewhere else in the forum, you can also do a two-step process, choose for the id to see you as permanently offline, and THEN choose for them to see you as online, which seems to change your own status indicator to what it should be.
I just thought I would point out that they really can see you the first time even though our id status does not indicate that. It's nicer to see it though I think because sometimes you forget who you've made yourself visible to, etc.
And again, I find this problem only happens with some people on my list and I still believe it's the people that have used their stealth settings so you see them as permanently offline. Just remember, they don't hate you, if they did they'd delete you and then put you on ignore lol.May 10, 2006 at 5:45 am #144127
Strigoi, I'm pretty sure it does the same thing even if they have chosen to be permanently offline to you before they log in as invisible. Try it with a friend maybe.May 11, 2006 at 10:30 am #144120sjnMember
I have been experimenting with this…I logged in using my Primary Yahoo ID and set the stealth settings for my Secondary ID as ‘permanently offline.' Then I logged with the Secondary ID, but I was able to adjust the stealth settings for the Primary ID.
Interestingly, when I logged back in with the Primary ID, I was NOT able to reset the stealth settings. I would select either ‘online’ or ‘offline’ and close the stealth settings box. When I opened the stealth settings box again, it would still be set to ‘permanently offline.’ At one point, the contact name was not italicized anymore, but the setting still said ‘permanently offline.' After I logged off and then logged back on again, the settings were correct.May 14, 2006 at 4:15 pm #144121marie132Member
guys, i tried it and here is my conclusion: the dudes on ur list appear in italics because YOU blocked them!!
and the only option u CANNOT click is “appear offline”, but u can appear online or permanently offline to them! that's all! so u CANNOT tell if they blocked you or not!!May 14, 2006 at 7:29 pm #144129dmc2409Member
Well, guys… I have had the same problem many times. And there's more that I think is also related to the subject. Seems like last week or so some people in my Friends List have seen me online when I had been invisible. Is it possible that Yahoo's servers make that mistake since I am sure that people who see me on don't use any stealth programs.May 14, 2006 at 8:42 pm #144124williamleeMember
The Key to invisability in yahoo messenger is within your preferences settings. But they are not the only settings. just setting being invisable wont always show you as off line. Inside your preferences under the privacy settings. if the box is checked on allow yahoo websites to show when I am online, then it is possible to see you as on line. another setting is set as default under privacy.
Do not show anyone how long I have been idle is not checked when the pre-set time expires and you have indeed been idle. an idle symbol can pop up. this will also turn on your little smiley to your friends but not to you because you set it as invisable and to you it will show you as such.
But these are not the only settings to assure your hidden On your yahoo profile rather you have one filled out or not makes no difference – by default it is set to show your on line when indeed your on line. you must go to edit your profile to shut this function down or when someone clicks on your profile bingo you will appear online if you are.
Keep in mind there are many settings throughout yahoo sites that may or may not ask if you wish to be seen. which sites is anyones guess I would think chat would be one that shows you on or off line and I would also thing yahoo games as well. because these sites allows you to converse with others as an on line user.
The bottom line here my friends is the internet like life has many variables which makes nothing a sure thing.May 14, 2006 at 10:00 pm #144128
this topic seems to have gone astray from what I originally meant.
to marie132: I'm not sure what you mean by ‘blocked them'…I'm assuming you mean I've used stealth settings so my contacts see me as permanently offline? if so that's not true, I have no one set like that and when I try to ‘appear online' to only ONE individual it won't always change. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my original message but that's what stealth settings are anyhow, when you're using it for just one person.
to dmc2409: your problem is a bit different than what I was talking about which is definitely related to the different way we use Yahoo settings as Williamlee has pointed out.
has anyone else tried what I did, or gotten a friend to put them as permanently offline and then try to appear online to them in stealth mode? (while you're inivisible of course)…maybe I can't explain properly what I mean, sorry, I tried to be as clear as possible.May 21, 2006 at 10:08 pm #144130drromeotnMember
This seems to be a different angle from what everyone else is talking about, and I'm new here by the way, found this forum trying to search for other instances/issues along what I'm experiencing through Google, but anyway….I keep having problems with certain people whom I have Stealth-set to show “Permanently Offline” to still able to see me as online regardless. This keeps happening repeatedly and is extremely annoying to say the least. Anyone else experiencing this?May 21, 2006 at 10:12 pm #144131drromeotnMember
Sorry, was only looking at the first page of results before I posted above, dmc sounds like he's experiencing the same bug I have been. I think I've had the same problem just in pure invisible mode as well, but I'm not on just as ‘invisible to everyone' anywhere near as frequently as I'm showing as available but with certain select friends set to “Permanently Offline” in Stealth settings.May 22, 2006 at 7:26 am #144132ShadowGMember
Hi all, :new: here, too. I happened upon this forum while searching for something else.
Back in January, I was curious about the stealth/permanently offline controls on Yahoo. I found that I can tell who has me clicked to permanently offline.:woot:
I decided to ask my best friend to help me experiment with Yahoo messenger. At the time, I'd had a person on my list who I hadn't seen online for awhile, yet I seen this person go offline all the time.
My friend and I used AOL messenger to chat while experimenting with Yahoo.
I clicked her permanently offline, then I signed out.
She seen me go offline while I had her clicked for permanently offline. I signed back in; she never seen me but as I signed out, she watched as it showed me signing out. I did this 4 times, and then with another nick I had. She seen me signing out every time.
I also had her click me as permanently offline, and sign out, which it showed her signing out, everytime. When we were done we were able to click each other back to both showing online and invisible, to be sure permanent didn't stay.
Basically yahoo stealth control for permanently offline does it's job- it shows you're offline (though they'll know you had been online when you sign out) but the invisibility feature is probably your best bet if you don't want anyone to see you've been online.
As for clicking to show certain people you are online and it doesn't show them you are online; I've had that problem before, too. I think that might be something wrong on Yahoo's end, but I can't be sure. I've clicked to show certain people I'm online and it's taken up to 10 minutes sometimes for it to kick in. I've rebooted my pc, thinking that was the problem, but it wasn't. Sometimes I've clicked to show I'm online- it'll show me that I'm online but the other person still can't see my nick light up until a few minutes later, and sometimes not lighting up on their end at all.
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