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October 19, 2004 at 9:22 am #1961QwertyMember
What is your stance on the issue of women getting an abortion? Do you think it is wrong to kill the potential human or do you think that it’s perfectly alright? This is a thread for you to give your opinions!
Personally, I think that abortion is a viable option for a mother while the child is still in the womb, as long as she has good reasons, such as that the child is deformed or will live a life that isn’t going to be up to par, seeing as the parents might not be able to afford to raise a child, although putting up the child for adoption is also an option..
October 19, 2004 at 9:47 am #36457MartinBradleyMemberI somewhat agree with you. I feel that each different case should be judged on its merits. And that if the child is perfectly healthy in the womb, then it should be allowed to live. However, if a child was to grow with disabilities which would make his/her life not a joy to live, then I agree abortion should be an option for the mother.
Its quite a touchy subject this one, I think that religion influences it alot, with some religions saying its fine, some say similar to what I said above, and some say its wrong altogether.
October 19, 2004 at 1:45 pm #36476gossipingraeMemberIt is the woman’s body, therefore it is her choice.
October 19, 2004 at 1:50 pm #36475amy_d_gParticipantI would never get an abortion myself, but I do not think it should be banned… I feel it is definitely a woman’s choice if that is what she wants to do. Just because some people think it is wrong due to religion or any other moral reasons doesn’t mean they should be able to force their beliefs on another person.
Just an idea, maybe make a poll to go along with this?
October 19, 2004 at 3:04 pm #36465QwertyMemberQuote:quote:Originally posted by gossipingraeIt is the woman’s body, therefore it is her choice.
What about the father? Surly he gets a say?
October 19, 2004 at 3:36 pm #36458MartinBradleyMemberYeah, I think the father should also get a say, seeing as if it wasn’t for him, the child would never be there in the first place. Both the mother and father should be able to discuss it.
Also, there was a recent story in the news about how a teenage daughter got an abortion without her mother knowing. Her mother argued that she had the right to know. Personally, I disagree with the mother, she didn’t have the right to know, it was up to the daughter to tell her. What do we think of that one?
October 19, 2004 at 4:41 pm #36459TigerbladeParticipanti think in that case, if the daughter was under 18, then yes the parent had a right to know. the daughter isnt legally old enough to consent to sexual activities, and her parents are her legal guardians. meaning they have a responsibility to her, but also a right to know what she’s doing, to a reasonable extent.
as to abortion in general, I think the woman should have the child no matter what, but if she doesnt want to keep it she can give the child up for adoption. there are plenty of people who want kids but cant have their own…. dont kill a new life
October 19, 2004 at 4:59 pm #36473Crazy PenguinMemberYou’re legally able to consent to sexual activities at the age of 16 aren’t you? or is that not the case in America?
i think the girl has a right to keep information from her mother if she was 16 or above, otherwise I think the mother should be allowed input, but not have complete control over whether a abortion happens or not.
October 19, 2004 at 6:56 pm #36460TigerbladeParticipantas to the age of consent… check out http://www.ageofconsent.com/ – it lists the sexual consent ages from around the world
as to the girl’s right to privacy vs her mother’s right to information… check out http://privacy.med.miami.edu/glossary/xd_minors.htm
October 19, 2004 at 8:41 pm #36444magistykMemberIn my opinion, I think abortion should be illegal unless the mother was raped or the mother or babies life is in danger by the pregnancy. It’s not so much the issue of killing the baby that concerns me the most (although it does concern me), it is the fact that it is basically teaching irresponsibility. Basically you are telling people that they can have sex whenever they want without protection and if they get pregnant then can come to the clinic and have an abortion. Some liberals even want to use Federal money to pay for abortions, so basically they will be little to no cost to the woman.
Sex has already turned into a normal activity for people of all ages, including teens at the age of 13! Abortion only pushes the idea that you can have sex at younger ages. IMHO, if you are having sex you better be sure that you are ready for a baby or will put the baby up for adoption, otherwise keep your damned legs closed.
As far as notifying the parent, if my kid is living under my house or is 18 and under, I better damned be notified if they want to have an abortion. (Notice that I said if they WANT to have an abortion, not that they had an abortion.) Not notifying the parents is simply wrong, your teaching the kids to pretty much keep secrets from their parents.
I believe that this will seriously lower the morals of our society. They are already very low today, imagine then going down even further.
October 20, 2004 at 5:46 am #36477gossipingraeMemberMartin, I absolutely agree with you there. The father should be in on the decision also. However, I do think it is unfair that fathers get put into difficult situations. If a woman decides to keep the baby and the father does not want it, he is forced to pay child support, no matter what. And, if a woman decides to have an abortion and not talk with the father, then he is SOL either way. It isn’t fair to the male.
Magicstyk, I agree with you on certain points. I feel that a parent should be informed if the child is under 16. Sometimes though, a teen may feel scared or upset about what their parents will say. I know that when I was under 18, I was sexually active, and I was afraid of what my parents would think. I would have gotten an abortion had the situation arised. Thankfully, it didn’t. I understand that your opinion is “if you’re having sex you better be ready for a baby, or else to keep your legs closed.” Sometimes accidents happen. Condoms can break, and birth control hormones are not 100% effective. People can take many precautions and things can happen. I don’t think responsible adults should be burdened with an unwanted child, knowing that they were careful.
As for federal funding for abortions, well I think people with medicaid should receive help with funding. I feel that students should be granted help with funding. I don’t think money should just be thrown out to young women to get an abortion. That is saying, “have sex all you want, we can abort your mistake for free!” They shouldn’t make it entirely free…maybe this will teach teens that “Okay, this thing is expensive, I don’t want to do it again.”
However, your opinion is yours, and mine is mine. It’s just a discussion.
EDIT: that post was also directed towards Qwerty, as he is the one who quoted me. LoL.
October 22, 2004 at 10:48 am #36462RabidKittenParticipant*cough* …to me a life is not a life unless it can sustain itself for a time on its own and be alright. So really, I don’t see a life as a life until it’s born. A fetus lives off its mother, meaning it is living by her means, not its own lifeform in my eyes. That and until teenaged mothers are more accepted by society and are given more rights, I think that they should always have that option. How fit will a mother be if she’s shunned by society, forced to a lesser school and such and so forth? That and there will always be illegal abortions if they aren’t legal, which not only endangers the mother, but if she dies, also the chance for any children she may have bared in the future and raised properly, so you’re not just ridding the world of the mother and fetus, but if we’re talking about destroying potential lives, your destroying any she may have brought forth if she dies from an illegal abortion.
See, I wouldn’t have such a problem with making it illegal if it wasn’t for the stigma young mothers, school age mothers and the like get, and don’t tell me they dont because they do. That and the fact that there will always be illegal abortions, and those are just unsafe.
And in a related matter, what about the bypass law, where teens can get a by from a judge so they don’t have to tell their parents. What do people think of that?
October 22, 2004 at 10:53 am #36474neo_ny_23Memberwell if the mom thinks that she is not ready for the child and cant take proper care of it and give a better life to it,then she is most welcome to take any decision she wants. Its her body and its her decision. Personaly, unless she has some real good decisions, I wont appreciate any to-be mom to abort her child.
October 23, 2004 at 5:11 am #36466QwertyMemberQuote:quote:Originally posted by RabidKitten*cough* …to me a life is not a life unless it can sustain itself for a time on its own and be alright.
What about people who need resperaters to breath like quadraplegics or do you just mean un-born babies?
Quote:quote:Originally posted by RabidKittenAnd in a related matter, what about the bypass law, where teens can get a by from a judge so they don’t have to tell their parents. What do people think of that?
Good idea. As long as judge knows what hes doing.
October 23, 2004 at 5:25 am #36452DavidParticipantQuote:quote:Originally posted by gossipingrae
Magicstyk, I agree with you on certain points. I feel that a parent should be informed if the child is under 16. Sometimes though, a teen may feel scared or upset about what their parents will say. I know that when I was under 18, I was sexually active, and I was afraid of what my parents would think. I would have gotten an abortion had the situation arised. Thankfully, it didn’t. I understand that your opinion is “if you’re having sex you better be ready for a baby, or else to keep your legs closed.” Sometimes accidents happen. Condoms can break, and birth control hormones are not 100% effective. People can take many precautions and things can happen. I don’t think responsible adults should be burdened with an unwanted child, knowing that they were careful.You just said you were UNDER 18, meaning you were not an adult. It’s quite irresponsible to have sex under the age of 18, then get an abortion. You had sex, now face the consequences.
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However, if a child was to grow with disabilities which would make his/her life not a joy to live, then I agree abortion should be an option for the mother.…. So I guess I should have been aborted? How nice.
I can’t see how anyone can disagree with what Magistyk said, abortions only promote even more irresponsibility. Am I the only one that notices these whoreish girls in school? Where has society’s morals gone? Maybe I’m just a sexist pig?
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