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August 22, 2006 at 9:12 pm #150463SpikeMember
You really have to question the videos floating around the Internet about this sort of thing. There is some pretty concrete evidence that what the government told us didn’t actually happen the way it did. I’ve seen both a short movie and a 1:30 documentary on the incident, and I’m pretty confident that they knew about it in some way or another.
August 22, 2006 at 11:52 pm #150472dvelez1985Member*omit*
August 22, 2006 at 11:52 pm #150457TigerbladeParticipantsarahtowny wrote:wooo hold the phones! But are you really suggesting that the government knew it was going to happen and just let it happen.that’s exactly what i’m suggesting. i’d almost go even further to suggest that the US government may have had a hand in planning and/or executing it, even. there’s too much out there contradicting the story we’ve been told about what happened that day to just accept it at face value. one way or another, there’s things we havent been told.
if you look at what has happened since then, it’s all rather conveniently related.
Quote:I actually think you should be ashamed to even think such a thing.i disagree with that. i consider myself a patriot. i love my country. it’s because i love my country that i feel required to question these things. if the people in charge of our country were in on such a plot involving the deaths of thousands of its own innocent citizens in order to begin a campaign of control and international meddling… how far can it go?
“people should not be afraid of their government. the government should be afraid of its people.” –V, in V for Vendetta
August 22, 2006 at 11:56 pm #150473dvelez1985Member*omit*
August 23, 2006 at 12:07 am #150453detn8rParticipantInternational order of control? May I ask, if you suggest the bombings in Spain, the new threats in the UK and even the train bombing in the UK previously was in the same way directed towards the government you said about 911?
With that “Fahrenheit 911” movie aside, what proof is there that the government planned a mass murder of it’s citizens for future order of control? What PURPOSE did they see need be, if THEY were the ones that were going to commit the problems they are trying to with hold others from committing?
I think this “conspiracy theory” is bull****.
August 23, 2006 at 12:41 am #150458TigerbladeParticipantok, let’s take the bombings in Spain. it’s entirely possible that it was planned and carried out as they said by terrorists. it’s also possible that it was done by governmental operatives, is it not? I’m willing to acknowledge the possibility of either option. granted, it cost over a hundred people (initial reports said 200+, but that was lowered later) their lives, but I wouldn’t necessarily put it past a government to sacrifice some for the “greater good.” It’s possible.
The new threats in the UK are an interesting question. Or more accurately, a big question mark. No one is really sure what happened there. There was a “plot” to do all of this, but no one really has any hard evidence of anything. For a group that was planning a dry run in a few days, none of the alleged suspects had any sort of plane tickets or any sort of liquid explosives in their possession or at their residences. I’d think there’s something fishy when a “plot” to blow up several planes has nothing prepared just days before it’s supposed to be practiced.
my point is that the government (particularly the US govt), in the wake of 9/11, has managed to assume a good deal of control that it had no grip on previously, while managing to squeeze more and more liberties away from the American people. (United Staters, detn8r? since technically Canadians and Mexicans, and Peruvians and such, are Americans as well) the US has invaded and bombed Afghanistan and Iraq with less than spectacular results. We were looking for Osama bin Laden… still haven’t found him, and we actually gave up looking. We went in looking for WMDs… didn’t find any. But now we have conveniently positioned military forces in the Middle East, with a sort of slippery American foothold in prime oil country.
you can’t dispute the fact that GWBush has a significant interest in oil.if you’re looking for power and control, and you’re in the US government, well… you’ve got it now. when you can arrest someone merely for holding up a protest sign, something has gone terribly wrong. what happened to freedom of speech? now, if you say something that’s not wholly supportive of the government, you’re “helping the terrorists” or “letting them win” or “being unpatriotic.”
many people seem to have forgotten that the founders of this country were being unpatriotic. they were deemed traitors and insurrectionists.
August 23, 2006 at 1:04 am #150475dvelez1985Member*omit*
August 23, 2006 at 1:12 am #150476dvelez1985Member*omit*
August 23, 2006 at 1:28 am #150459TigerbladeParticipantok… fair enough.
- The recent “plot” to blow up planes with liquid explosives — Muslim Leaders Begin to Doubt the Plot
- the CIA has reportedly shut down its bin Laden unit — CIA Reportedly Disbands Bin Laden Unit
and yes, there are three units of government, but that doesn’t mean that they’re all completely and perfectly balanced out. especially when the country is being told we’re all in constant peril and danger, people are more willing to go along with what the leaders tell us to do.
August 23, 2006 at 1:37 am #150474dvelez1985Member*omit*
August 23, 2006 at 1:38 am #150477dvelez1985Member*omit*
August 23, 2006 at 1:59 am #150460TigerbladeParticipantI also just finished up an entry on my site about this, if you’re interested in checking that out as well. It turned out to a be a bit on the long side (compared to my average post length) but I think I did a decent job of saying what I wanted.
I’m most likely going to add to it later on when I get more time, but in the meantime: Unpatriotic.
August 23, 2006 at 1:59 am #150478dvelez1985Member*omit*
August 23, 2006 at 4:17 am #150461TigerbladeParticipantuh… because i stated in my first post that i didn’t want this to turn into an argument, i’ll be nice as possible here.
dont accuse me of being ignorant. i do my research, i check my facts. i am not one to go spouting ideas without checking into them. i did not just ‘read one thing and believe that’, contrary to what you may think.yes, i’m aware not everything you see or read is accurate. that’s why i check as many different reports from as many different sources as i can. i then decide what is and what is not credible, and draw my own conclusions, thank you very much.
so don’t accuse me of being ignorant. and have a nice day.
August 23, 2006 at 5:08 am #150484Tea GrannyMemberThis post/thread was supposed to be just opinion. You don’t really need facts to have an opinion. There is also no need to insult someone for having an opinion. If we all felt and believed the exact same things, then life would be very dull and boring.
It only takes one man in government to terrorize/control a country. Do the “McCarthy hearings” ring a bell?
Evil prevails when good men fail to act.
I don’t think the US government had a hand in planning or executing any of it, but I do believe they knew something was going to happen and assumed it would not be as big as it was, or that they could deal with whatever was coming. And that is my opinion.
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