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September 8, 2005 at 12:51 am #102256nEwDaLsMembercamel wrote:Nuthing will totally stop booters chat clients filters ytunnel they always find a loopp hole yahoo can patch a boot and they will have a new version out in a few hrs they have nuthin better to do. With the help of ytunnel and an extensive filter ya can become almost unbootable but theres always someone out there that will be able to hit ya. :woot:
I’ve Been Programming Booters On yahoo, for a little over 2 years now… some may know me others may not. There ARE ways to be Unbootible, and it’s Not that I don’t have anything better to do, its the Challange i love. As Far as Y!Tunnel or Chet Simpson goes that Won’t Work I can Boot Right Through Y!Tunnel with a Game Invite Pm… PM Being the Key Word. Since D/C (Disconnect) Packets Don’t Work Any Longer. PM Packets are the Only Way to Boot So Turn Your PMS OFF. that will solve your Problems.
September 11, 2005 at 6:58 am #102248kickMember😀 ok this is what i do to stop the idiots who get a thrill booting people from chat rooms
I use yahelite and messenger together in yalite i log on with a name in YCHAT (don’t use sound on this ) in the same room then log in on the name i want to chat on in messenger with ytunnel on highest possible settings also i run zonealarmpro set to maxium on firewall and id & privacy settings set high which appears to help(i was told by a booter by being in YCHAT at the same times gives you better protection from server over load/flooding when someones trying to boot you)In my IE browser i set the security to HIGH and privacy setting to MEDIUM HIGH while in yahoo also i run a great program called portblocker by analogX i block some extra port that booters use , i have this one idiot he is hell bent on booting me everytime he see’s me l he sits there for hours trying to boot me i watch his attempts on the portblocker log it also gives his IP address he uses in the log
his last fruitless efforts had him frustrated 😀 he was throwing a 1000 bots at me with no success
so far for the past 3 months i have rarely been booted i’m not claiming this will work for everyone but it appears to frustrate most booters
What i need now is to work out how to disable the scripts these idiots use to LAG the audio in the rooms ,it really amazes me why people even adults in their 40’s do this childish stuff ? what is their purpose of entering chat rooms to only sit there running scripts to ruin other users time in chat rooms surely this must get boring after all it takes them a lot more effort to do this garbage than it does for users to simply log out and rejoin the chat room thus the booter has acheived nothing really and looks stupidI realise young kids /teens get a thrill booting but adults need to grow up !!
I use mainly the fight rooms on yahoo where booting is the worst its really amusing to watch these people get their ego’s crushed then reek revenge by booting or lagging
i guess some adults have fragile ego’s
what yahoo needs is on line chat admins available to ban these clowns as PALTALK does it would clean it up greatly and be a much better chat program
AS for reporting these people its a waste of time only thing you receive is a bot replySeptember 11, 2005 at 11:43 pm #102258EnglishStanMemberHello, i inputted the code (which goes under filter1.enc) but i still managed to get booted off. It is very frustrating, is there a newer or stronger code that is being used……
Thanks.
EDIT: I also noticed it is opening up lots of dr watson files on my task manager…
September 12, 2005 at 10:17 pm #102237DermotParticipantOk
For one, it would be better to provide straight foward actions for the above and the fact the best form of action a so called booter can give is turn your pms off is not much.
There is still disconnect packets not patched by yahoo.
You can set all non friend pm’s on yahoo messenger to all go into a single window to stop pm flooding which is off by default…why i dont know.
open Yahoo! Messenger and go to Messenger on top of messenger buddy list and go to Preferences …a new window will open.
go to the option Messages and left click it once on the left till it shows numerous options to the right.
look under the options box “When i recieve messages from people not on my friends list” and tick the option Show the messages in a single window
Click apply then ok
This will stop all pm bombing…even cloned packet pm’s…including the ++ trick
You can use Yahoo! Messenger along side any other Chat Client that uses YCHT yahoo! chat protocol.
With the above settings turned on even game invites are discarded to the consealed single box.
This will not stop disconnect packets but will stop mostly everything else.
Dermot
September 16, 2005 at 12:41 am #102259EnglishStanMemberTried that, butn they seem to be able to breach my settings. how do i dissable IMs altogether???
September 17, 2005 at 3:18 pm #102260donniefrangaleMemberthanks, I’m a new cyber-baby and I was just in Yahoo for 3 days when one morning I got a message that I was booted.. I tell you in my mind you are all sitting in a room somewhere and I am all alone in my computer space…. ready for the picking… no warning no nothing…. So now I know what happened.. I don’t now if i will be able to remember all the info tho… Thanks, Jeff
September 24, 2005 at 2:28 am #102257nEwDaLsMemberDermot wrote:OkFor one, it would be better to provide straight foward actions for the above and the fact the best form of action a so called booter can give is turn your pms off is not much.
There is still disconnect packets not patched by yahoo.
You can set all non friend pm’s on yahoo messenger to all go into a single window to stop pm flooding which is off by default…why i dont know.
open Yahoo! Messenger and go to Messenger on top of messenger buddy list and go to Preferences …a new window will open.
go to the option Messages and left click it once on the left till it shows numerous options to the right.
look under the options box “When i recieve messages from people not on my friends list” and tick the option Show the messages in a single window
Click apply then ok
This will stop all pm bombing…even cloned packet pm’s…including the ++ trick
You can use Yahoo! Messenger along side any other Chat Client that uses YCHT yahoo! chat protocol.
With the above settings turned on even game invites are discarded to the consealed single box.
This will not stop disconnect packets but will stop mostly everything else.
Dermot
indeed some disconnect packets do work in fact all of them still work if you have 500 bots ya can just waste cause after you throw a disconnect at someone ya get chat banned and hard at that. so lets talk common sense, no booter is gonna burn all his bots on just nobody… which is y i said game invite my progs take 1 bot 2 bots max to kill now anyone that knows anything about yahoo booting knows bots are hard to come by espically when there are no good bot makers cause manual bot making is long and aggravationg (10 an hour) to say the least.October 3, 2005 at 6:16 am #102249kickMemberI’m not sure where to post this but i’m fed up with idiots lagging rooms a room i go to this 1 guy lags it for hours when questioned why he said because this other user runs bots in here till he removes his bots he intends to lag the room . my question is how can i block this guys lagging /bots ??? i have vcguard but thats no use now .
Wht hasnt yahoo patched these stupid lag exploits properly? i have reported this guy many times but nothing happens . i have ytunnel firewall etc tried all the usual things to block this idiot but when he runs 900 voice bots its hard to stop his childish B/S its time yahoo cleaned up its rooms banning these idiotsOctober 3, 2005 at 7:38 am #102246miGsMemberkick wrote:I’m not sure where to post this but i’m fed up with idiots lagging rooms a room i go to this 1 guy lags it for hours when questioned why he said because this other user runs bots in here till he removes his bots he intends to lag the room . my question is how can i block this guys lagging /bots ??? i have vcguard but thats no use now .
Wht hasnt yahoo patched these stupid lag exploits properly? i have reported this guy many times but nothing happens . i have ytunnel firewall etc tried all the usual things to block this idiot but when he runs 900 voice bots its hard to stop his childish B/S its time yahoo cleaned up its rooms banning these idiots
I found this post in one of the “sites” that I frequented…voice laggers work via UDP connections a good way i have found to combat this is to use yahelite while in chat and by typing the command /noudp into the text field this will block all UDP ports and force yahoo voice to connet via TCP ports rendering the UDP lagger useless…….alternatively if you prefer to use messenger then i have added a link below for a program that does the same thing for messenger.
(Sorry, I wont give the link :p , however, attached below is the program he is referring to).
Please do scan the program before using it.
October 4, 2005 at 10:10 pm #102251married1wannaMemberI agree with newdals about the bots, and the bot chat bans, he is correct. The process of creating bots is made substantially easier by some “bot-sh!tter” programs were u only have to type in that little cracked ice image and it stacks up the ids in a text file.
But, The real answer to booting is to get a better chat client. Y-tunnel gets alot of discussion in here but there are some better chat clients as far as booting is concerned available and many of them are free. Some the of the more mainstream ones are discussed here and compaired along with links wherre they can be downloaded for free. http://www.yahlist.net/boots.htm
October 5, 2005 at 5:04 pm #102238DermotParticipantYahELite has a UDP lock Built in.
type /noudp to turn udp off to force TCP Voice connection
type /udp to turn it off and back to UDP.
As for booting…lets make this perfectly clear….
Any client using YMSG protocol can be booted.
Chat2/DHTML Protocol will offer slightly more protection but not much and will be booted.
YCHT protocol is pretty much unbootable due to the Fact the servers used for YCHT do not communicate Certain packets from YMSG or Chat2/DHTML as it does not support them whatsoever…these been .. audibles…imvironments..pm voice..photo sharing..conference invites/declines..send file..games..(70% of pm’s never make it past the server)..etc
Since these packets are the ones used maliciously to boot someone out of YMSG/Chat2 it means YCHT is pretty Secure against these attacks.
There is a plus and a minus to using YCHT …some as follows.
– Most pm’s will never work right
+ You can have your Yahoo! Messenger logged into pager with same id and have it in chat on YCHT (pms will popup on messenger, Y! Tunnels Ychat bridge utulises this)
– You may Miss peoples typing in the room that are in YMSG/Chat2
+ You wont be booted or see many porn bot pm’s.
– Yahoo! will disconnect you about every 45 minutes. (Chat clients will relog you back in)
+ YCHT allows ID’s to enter in caps and the use of old Spaced id’s and @domain yahoo id’s.
I agree Yahoo! need to control the id making a lot better but there is not much they can do unless they IP ban but this will just be thwarted by the use of mass proxies.I think they should not “Activate” id’s until e-mails have been “Verified”
October 12, 2005 at 10:21 am #102231rezujMemberI read all the posts including mine of aug 04 and i really wonder why r v spending so much time abt booting. the simple option of “Ignore anyone who is not on my messenger list” works wonderfully well in the latest version. its here -> Yahoo Main Menu’s “Messenger” -> Preferences -> Ignore List.
and attempts by the most seasoned booters to boot me, have failed. i m not a techie, but yes i have my AV always updated .
and oh yes i have been a regular combatant with a positive attitude on various issues in the yahoo chat rooms since 1999. and also earlier victim of booters. but as of today i m njoying my freedom from these booters.
Happy Chatting!!!!
November 28, 2005 at 10:50 am #102261Pervy_the_CareBearMemberputting someone on ignore DOES NOT stop them booting you! You can take my word for that one. Turning your PMs off doesn’t help either. You are all assuming the name that is the one harrassing you in the room is the one doing it, usually it isn’t. These people have booters that log in 500-1000 bot. No program out there is designed to take many hits in that short of span, it overwhelms them and disconnects you from Yahoos servers. And these people don’t care if they lose the names, they just grab an ID maker and make more, it’s that simple. Yahoo could stop alot of this if they want to, along with the spam bots but for whatever reason they chose not to.
Instead of people making booters why can’t someone make one NOT to. YTunnel is supposed to stop them but it doesn’t either. The only way I know of to not get booted is use the java based messanger on the main yahoo site. As soon as yahoo fixes one loophole in messanger the booters find another and exploit that. As far as I know there is no way to stop it if someone wants to boot you you are gone, simple as that. It’s a game to most of them to see how many bots they can get logged in and how many people they can boot with them before yahoo locks their account or deletes it.
December 16, 2005 at 7:39 am #102162Jeff HesterKeymasterOk seems this post has grown a bit since i was last here so going to explain a few things..
Booting believe it or not is really SYN/ACK
Computer sends out SYN packets and replies to SYN packets with ACK want it simple ok ..
stick out ya hand to shake another hand = SYN
Person offers there hand = ACK
therefore handshake protocol 😀 = connectionnow lets take that one step further ,
To many ppl stick out thier hand to reply to you hand your going to get confused as to which hand to shake too many hands you get flooded your computer works the same way it cannot respond to that many in the time frame , no connection = disconnected.
Now with booters theses packets are generally malformed meaning your shaking a foot instead of a hand hope ya follow now.
SYN flooding can be controlled but not stopped as you need SYN/ACK to create the connection in the first place.
OK now true you will never stop the booters its that simple but there is a few things you can do this is basic lesson 101.
Get yourself a good firewall,Ytunnel and enable Packet logging and youll see what gets recorded eg : sent from me to myself
YMSG…..Œ$4À€my_idÀ€1À€my_idÀ€5À€your_idÀ€14À€[#004080mhelloÀ€97À€1À€48À€3À€63À€À€64À€2À€206À€0À€10093À€4À€.
now as you can see im using YMSG protocol and the message was from my_id( me ) to your_id( you )
im using a font face of Tahoma and i said “hello” easy huh.Ok now as with most booters as most are just to damn lazy to make unique IDs and generally go with a few but the princible will always be the same.
Lets assume for just a minute that booter is XYZ_01 or something so being lazy that they are they make some bot IDs ( names that are disposable ) eg:
xyz_01
xyz_002
xyz_0ey1etc etc …
now if you have Ytunnel and your settings to block IMs from unknowns youll see in the activity logger a group ( usually in red) and all about they same time frame of “unknown IDs ” appearing or even ” message blocked from….” but the “flood” withh be usually within a 2 – 3 minute time frame and alot of them” hence as it will be a boot youll get disconnected.
However, BEFORE you relog into yahoo (as its easier to find) if you look thru your firewall packet logs , usually under yahoo server scs.msg.yahoo.com in the log (you might have to maximize the window and scroll down a bit but youll find it) then you’ll see the “traffic” – providing you are full packet logging
and it will look similar too ( but depending on the packets used in the booter they have
$5À€your_idÀ€4À€booter_idÀ€244À€262655À€252À€qxyLwoRx0aW54Wyjgbow2CLwj9Gg8A==À€97À€1À€14À€Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬À€63À€;0À€64À€0À€.YMSG….Â….$5À€your_idÀ€4À€booter_id2€244À€262655À€252À€qyCLwoRx0aVIw7p9k9+i5kkzCDND8A==À€97À€1À€14À€Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬Û¬<font
This is an example only.
So as you can see you were flooded from a boot packet ( they do differ thou)
So before you resign in to yahoo you wildcard the ID ( or IDs) that flooded you you may have to look in the packets for a frew but youll get most names anyway ( I can manage 20 when i look without trying too hard).
So hence you wildcard the name “xyz_“ in ytunnel and if they have others they used ( most do) wildcard them as well eg “zyx_” that will eliminate the flood to a degree – but its easier to spend the 5 mins to do this than it is for them to create them.
its a simple process but i’m sure you can follow this – hope it helps
March 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm #102262ChappyskiMemberI found the file you were refering to, although its not a txt file anymore its one that is unrecognised on windows 7 and if you try to edit and save it, it says access denied even on administrator……
Im not great with programming but I want to stop these fools kicking me everytime I enter a chat room 🙁
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