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August 15, 2003 at 9:47 pm #12503yeah rightMember
Now i get a kick outa all the people that advocate the use of ytunnel for one thing chet promised it would allways be free and now look.That is not some one you can trust obviously,But yet people tell other people to download his software all the time. heres a link where youll find a few thousand people who agree with me. http://www.petitiononline.com/notunnel/petition.html ……………………………………………………………………………………………Yahoo! grants you a personal, non-transferable and non-exclusive right and license to use the object code of its Software on a single computer; provided that you do not (and do not allow any third party to) copy, modify, create a derivative work of, reverse engineer, reverse assemble or otherwise attempt to discover any source code, sell, assign, sublicense, grant a security interest in or otherwise transfer any right in the Software. You agree not to modify the Software in any manner or form, or to use modified versions of the Software, including (without limitation) for the purpose of obtaining unauthorized access to the Service. You agree not to access the Service by any means other than through the interface that is provided by Yahoo! for use in accessing the Service. (from yahoo terms of service)
22. TRADEMARK INFORMATION
Yahoo!, the Yahoo! logo, Yahoo! in Chinese Characters, Yahooligans!, the Yahooligans! design, the “Jumpin Y Guy” logo, Do you Yahoo!?, Y!, Y! stylized, My Yahoo!, Eyeballs design, Homework Answers, The Scoop, Get Local, the Worlds Favorite Internet Guide, the Sunglasses design, e Café Yahoo!, Viaweb, Shop Find, EZSpree, EZWheels, I Shops, Permission Marketing, Yoyodyne, Get Rich Click, and GeoCities trademarks and service marks, and other Yahoo! logos and product and service names are trademarks of Yahoo! Inc. (the “Yahoo! Marks”). Without Yahoo!’s prior permission, you agree not to display or use in any manner, the Yahoo! Marks.(more from TOS) but according the admin on this site we dont have to follow it
This simply means using anything for yahoo that is not directly from yahoo can get your account locked and or removed. Heres why im totally against ytunnel because the guy who wrote allso constructs booters for it. This is putting more server traffic on yahoo causing all kinds of unwanted errors and things that we all have to deal with. Im not trying to be mean to any one i just type this stuff out fast and it is how is…….AND i can see that yahoo is activley looking for something right now add bots along with other things and i just wanted to warm people not start a fight…the above section is from yahoo directly and if they could they would take ytunnel away just for the add blockers they did it once it will happen again………….
August 15, 2003 at 10:59 pm #91815shifterMemberThats all well and good, but if you create software, you are entitled to charge for its use. And there is currently a free basic version and a pay pro version of Y!Tunnel, so did he really lie? I have heard that Y!Tunnel has helped alot of people who are having booter problems. Use it if it works for you. I don’t use it, and I have no use for it as I don’t go into chat rooms often, but if I was targeted by booters, your damn right I would give it a try. T.O.S. be damned. I have heard this argument before that certain things will break the T.O.S. agreement, and I think its pointless. Yahoo has the T.O.S. to cover itself, if you break it, sure they CAN lock your account, but will they? Not unless someone reports you, and even then its doubtful. Its up to you to make the choice of whether you want to follow the rules and be booted from chat and messenger constantly, or do something about it. If Yahoo can’t keep these boot codes under control, then its up to you to protect yourself. End of story.
August 15, 2003 at 11:23 pm #91856yeah rightMemberboot codes?
aparently you didnt ready my other post use java chat and it all goes away…..and yahoo if u upgrade to 5.6 yahoo has patched everything if u shut your ims off to people other then freind you wont get booted any way……chet is writing and selling software thats simply not legal and at one time ytunnel was pay only. And no by law your not entitled to create any kind of software lol or use any kind for that matter… if that were true then people could buy any software decomplie it and change it a little then call it there own thats why we have copy write laws
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////any way all i wanted to do is let people know that using it may get them removed from yahoo perminantly thats allAugust 15, 2003 at 11:33 pm #91855yeah rightMemberAnd just one more thing your trying to argue with yahoos rules witch they get to set is pointless// what i put up was cut and paisted from yahoos terms of service.eventually yahoo will be looking for ytunnel and that will be then end of many accounts mostly becasue of that add banner blocks…simply put your advocating people using software that may take there accounts away do u tell them that too//////
August 15, 2003 at 11:54 pm #91814shifterMemberQuote:quote:Originally posted by yeah rightboot codes?
aparently you didnt ready my other post use java chat and it all goes away…..and yahoo if u upgrade to 5.6 yahoo has patched everything if u shut your ims off to people other then freind you wont get booted any way……Yes, Java Chat will help stop many boot codes, but not all. See this post and Oreo’s response to using Java Chat on this post. Most people enjoy talking to other people and do not wish to turn off the IM’s of non-friends. The problem here isn’t Y!Tunnel, its booters. Get rid of the booters, you have no need for programs like Y!Tunnel that break the precious T.O.S. End of problem, end of whining.
Quote:quote:Originally posted by yeah rightchet is writing and selling software thats simply not legal and at one time ytunnel was pay only.
Yes we have copyright laws. Why isn’t Yahoo prosecuting Chet then? If they think Y!Tunnel is violating copyright, I’m sure they will take action.
Quote:quote:Originally posted by yeah rightAnd no by law your not entitled to create any kind of software
What? Thats news to me. I guess alot of software companies are screwed now….
Ok, my big question right now is why you are so concerned about Y!Tunnel, and yet don’t seem to express any concern towards booters? Which is the more realistic problem here?
August 16, 2003 at 12:13 am #91854yeah rightMemberno i dont get booted becasue i know what im doing ive been on yahoo chat for years. booting is not a problem to me if people dont know what they are doing they need to learn its not hard and i will help any one with any problem they have if i can………………………………Y tunnel is not the sloution thats all im saying because it can cause your account to be locked and it has done that before……
August 16, 2003 at 12:17 am #91852yeah rightMemberread the copy write section of yahoos TOS
August 16, 2003 at 12:23 am #91813shifterMemberOK, I think we’ve both made our points. Yahoo users be warned and beware.
August 16, 2003 at 12:27 am #91853yeah rightMemberyes it does stop them all …boot codes are different then protocal bombs maybe you should try some things out and see because thats the only way to know you give advice but i dont see why your just right and im wrong lol i went to college and ive been on yahoo since 94……….there are no working chat boot codes right now as in script that causes errors if some one uses that they get their account locked
all booting is done with protocalAugust 16, 2003 at 12:38 am #91812shifterMemberThats fine, you claim Java stops them all, use Java. I’m not telling people not to try it out. I am just pointing out that some users do not enjoy using Java and prefer alternative solutions.
I don’t profess to know everything about Yahoo and booters. I am giving you MY personal opinion. I am not saying I’m right and you’re wrong, you made valid points, hopefully I made some valid ones as. A discussion can be healthy to help clarify things that many users would otherwise not know. If you can’t back up your statements, then you will be seen through.
Now I don’t see why going to college has anything to do with this, but I do find it a bit sad that you still spell and type at the level of a thirteen year old. Sorry to offend, but people will find your point of view more persausive if you present it in a more readable manner.
August 16, 2003 at 11:33 am #91833freddyMemberIf people want to use Y!Tunnel their choice. I see it daily in the chat help rooms, you get a number of people who claim to be knowledeable telling people they MUSTN’T use Y!Tunnel, first off they claimed it was a trojan, when put right, they claimed very lamely that the manager of the proxy server was stealing passwords (once again put right, the proxy is actually the program on your pc) now they claim breach of TOS, its funny how the same people use illegal software and 3rd Party Clients.
I’m not saying Y!Tunnel does the best job, but if you really like Yahoo! Messenger, then Y!Tunnel eases the problem, it doesn’t 100% fix it, but it sure makes the experience a lot better. Java chat is not a buddy list took either, and many like to have their buddy list managed the way Yahoo! Messenger does. And I don’t wish to dissapoint you, but I give Java chat no more than a few months before its gone (the YCHT protocol at least, they could code a java applet to use the YMSG protocols, although they have Chat2.0 for that).
If yahoo! want to prosecute, they cannot under copyright laws (no modification or copying of any of Yahoo!s software has taken place), but they may have a case because his software makes a connection to their servers illegally, but then so do 3rd party software. Yahoo! don’t actually appear to care too much about this software, they could easily get rid of it. The author for YahELite for example has his name and address in the program, would not be hard for him to be traced, they simply dont care, and there would be no case really.
We have also had this conversation on BigBlueBall before. Check the previous threads (search).
August 16, 2003 at 1:31 pm #91821JohnsonMemberThe thing here isn’t about booting, it’s about choice of using regular messenger or java, this is what you would call an oppurtunity cost, if you had economics in college, then you would know what that is. Most people really dislike java, messenger is much better, I think it comes down to whether or not you are a big chatter, and always talk in the chat rooms and never instant messages, then java may very well be your cup of tea. But if your like most people and you talk in a lot of private/instant messages you would logically prefer messenger cause that’s what it’s main purpose is. If you try to pm people in java very likely it won’t be received on the other end, but on messenger, it will be received 99.9% of the time. Another thing i hate about java is half the time i try to login to it, it won’t log me in. Messenger i can login 99/100 tries.
Like I have said all along, who cares about booting, theres a 100 other things a lot worse someone can do to you in yahoo. If people wouldn’t make such a big deal out of it, then we wouldn’t see as much of it. This isn’t about what’s better, it’s about the individual user and what chatting habits they have.August 17, 2003 at 6:09 pm #91851yeah rightMemberno freddie i say use them both at the same time because thats the best way then you have ims from messanger and the chat saftey of java and it will not appear ur being booted if u can still talk in chat..and java will allways log in is your using the appropriate one for your system..and yes u can log messanger and java in under same name with no problems
August 17, 2003 at 6:41 pm #91850yeah rightMemberim not giving point of view im giving facts so your cognative skills are lacking
August 17, 2003 at 7:11 pm #91848yeah rightMemberjava chat has been around ten years and wotn be gone ina few months maybe 2 or 3 years
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