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September 2, 2006 at 8:16 pm in reply to: Secretly add someone to your Contact List? Good or Bad? You tell us! #151476
tim2679
MemberI realize that if hacker wants to do something bad to you, god knows password will not help you. If there is security hole in Yahoo’s severs it (I’m just guessing) length/strength of password will probably not matter
Most people that steal account are not hackers.
A hacker is a microcomputer user who attempts to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems.
Someone who steals or trys to steal a yahoo account is not a hacker. They are
not trying to gain access to your computer. What they are doing is simply using
a collection of pre-made passwords, a list of usernames, and the program trys
each password in the password list with the first username in the username list.
Then is successful or not successful with any other the password it will move on
to the next name in the list. The reason someones account could be stolen is
simple, they simply didn’t make their password a good password. The most
most common password for people are 12345 or 1234567 or something easy.A common password list will usually start off like this
123
1234
12345
123456
1234567
12345678
123456789Then you also have the other common way of stealing someone account
which the person makes a site that looks like a Yahoo site with a login.
The user is then tricked into entering their username and password which
is then sent to an email address of the stealer’s choice with the person’s
username and password. Its easy to tell if the site is really a Yahoo site or
not. Yahoo will not use a geocities address for there Briefcase or Photo
websites. Always look at the address bar and make sure its an offical Yahoo
website.Yes there are ways a actual hacker can steal your account, but most people
don’t hack someones account. The most people actually use the methods
above to try to get someones account.A little more on topic, adding someone without them knowing is not a hack
either. Information in the add request is added, taken out, or changed from
the actual add request. The program used to add someones name without
them knowing does not gain access to the person’s computer to do so.September 2, 2006 at 5:22 pm in reply to: Secretly add someone to your Contact List? Good or Bad? You tell us! #151475tim2679
MemberEven if you add someone without them knowing it will only allow you to see if
they are online, their status message/s, and you still won’t be able to know if
they are online even if they are invisible. If you have your messenger set to
only allow people on your buddy list to PM you, the person that added you
without you knowing will not be allowed to PM you because they are not in
your buddy list. The only real advantage is they can see if you are online.In the end it all depends on how the person/s use the program. If they are
using it to keep track of the people that are booting them or the people that
might be trying to steal their account it could be concidered a good use. If
someone is using it for the purpose to just see when people are online or not
then it could be concidered a bad thing.It all comes down to each person’s individual opinion. Some will always find
something bad about it and other’s will always find something good about it.
There have been programs around that would allow you to add someone
without them know for a while now. I think people are more worried/excited
now because its more public. They really didn’t think about it much before
either because they thought it was impossible or wasn’t that big of a deal to
them at the time.There is not just one way to adds someone without them knowing. There are
a few different ways you can do it. I have seen a few programs that do it
differently then the other. This just means that a programmer didn’t want to
copy what another programmer did so they figured out their own method.In my opinion this topic will always come to a 50/50 on what people think.
tim2679
MemberMore then likely no. Yahoo limits the upload size to 10 mb’s for free accounts.
If you are a Yahoo Mail Plus user you can send up to 20 mb’s.You would have to use WinRar or a file splitter to break the movie down into
10 mb pieces ( or 20 mb pieces for Yahoo Mail Plus users. )So say your movie is 700 mb’s in total. After splitting you would end up with
about 70 split files. ( If the upload limit is 10 mb or 23 split files at 20 mb )
Meaning you would have to send them 70 emails for them to have the whole
movie, which they would have to rejoin after they have all of the split files.If you are using WinRar, all they would need is to have WinRar, all of the files,
and then extract the first split file. ( usually its filename.part1 )If you used a regular file splitter then they would need a rejoiner program, all
the files, and then have the joiner rejoin all of the pieces.There are online storage sites that you can upload movies, pics, and other
file types. Rapidshare, File Lodge, Up-File, Oxyshare, and some others.Some might limit on how much you can download unless your a premium
member like on Rapidshare. After you download something you must wait
around an hour before you are allowed to download something else unless
you are a premium member. Others will not make you wait, however you
are only allowed to download one file at a time. Meaning if you are wanting
a movie and its in two parts you can not download part 1 and part 2 at the
same time. After you download the first file you will not have to wait an hour
you can start to download part 2 after. Up-File is one like that, it will let you
download without an hour wait, but are only allowed to download 1 file at a time.
As far as I know with Up-File there is no upload limit and no limit on space.tim2679
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Double click to enter the registry entry. It will ask you is you are you, click yes.
This will allow you to open more then one instance of Yahoo Messenger 8 ( So far it works with all builds of 8.0 )
Enables Multiple Instances
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareYahoopagerTest]
“Plural”=dword:00000001
If you change your mind later, simply delete the registy entry in the Test folder or change the value from 1 to 0Disables Multiple Instances
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareYahoopagerTest]
“Plural”=dword:00000000
tim2679
MemberFor those who want it in zip format.
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tim2679
Member1. The chat room you are trying to enter is full.
2. Something might be wrong with the chat server.
3. Check your connection settings for the messenger. If you have it set to No Proxies it should be working.
( If you have it set to Firewall with no proxies you will be unable to enter chat rooms using the messenger. )tim2679
MemberThere are four builds for Yahoo Messenger 8 that I know for sure.
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701tim2679
MemberLots of people lose text in PM’s and Chat. Its either a connection problem or for some reason the Yahoo Server is not sending the packets properly. There is nothing you can fix unless its a connection problem on your end. Other then that its a problem with the server and yahoo would have to fix it on their end.
tim2679
MemberYou can add up to 300 contacts to your Messenger List.
When you make a new group and move a contact to that group the
messenger sends a packet to the Yahoo Server telling it that you
moved that contact from the group it was in to the new group.
So the next time you login, messenger will know to make the new
group that you made and what names are in those group/s.The Packet for moving someone to a different group has the following info.
1. Your Username
2. The Name you are moving
3. The group the name that is being moved from
4 The group the name that is being moved toNow when you login at some point the messenger gets a Packet with the following info.
1. The Name of the Group
2. A list of the names in that group
3. If you have more then one group it will get each group name and each list
4. The Groups and Names are added to you messenger listI don’t believe there is a limit on how many groups can added. Yahoo does not say there is a limit, they only say there is a limit on how many people can be added to your list which is 300. ( This is due to the fact your buddy list is stored on the Yahoo Server. )
You say that you tried to move a name to a group you made and it didn’t move. This could be caused if the messenger didn’t send the packet telling it which name to move from what group to which group. Or the messenger did send the packet but the Yahoo Server never got it. ( Could be due to an internet connection problem or the Yahoo Server was down )
As for the problem of buddy list showing in their old group/s. This again could be cause by the Yahoo Server not saving or getting the packet/s with the changes that you made. If the server does not save your changes it will always load the old list it had saved before you tried to make the changes.
There might be a limit, as I said Yahoo does not say there is one but you never know with them. lol
tim2679
MemberChanging your connection settings to Firewall with no Proxies will limit which features you can use. Any feature that uses a direct connection will no longer work. This is not a bug in Yahoo Messenger, it’s because you told it to act like you are using a firewall. So it is assuming you can not get direct incoming connections.
You will not be able to enter chat rooms using the messenger. When trying to load your webcam it will tell you that the Server is busy (cause it can’t connect to it). The File Transfer and Call features may be effected as they uses a direct connection.
Using the Firewall with no Proxies is kinda like using Yahoo’s Web Messenger
tim2679
MemberChat is still the same, the only thing that is different is Yahoo no longer supports people connecting threw java ( aka YChat ). When you enter Chat threw the messenger you are connecting using ymsg protocol. Now you can only connect using ymsg protocol or chat2 protocol.
tim2679
MemberThis may be caused when using the new installer yahoo uses. You download a
small installer then it connects to the net to download the files it needs. One
problem with that though is some times it does not download a file you need
causing the messenger to no function properly. You will be able to tell when
its the new installer the link will look like this.http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/msgr8/us/ymsgr8us.exe
If you download the messenger from messenger.yahoo.com it will always use
the new installer. Your best bet is to download the actual installer setup.
The links will be different and it also does not download all the extra crap
like the Yahoo Toolbar at that. Below are a list of links for the full setup installers.http://download.yahoo.com/dl/msgr8/us/ymsgr800_701_us.exe
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/msgr8/us/ymsgr800_683_us.exe
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/msgr8/us/ymsgr800_682_us.exe
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/msgr75/us/ymsgr750_819_us.exe
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/msgr7/us/ymsgr702_120_us.exe
You will be able to tell the difference as you will see the version and the
build number is inclueded in the link/s.Make sure you unistall the current version of Yahoo Messenger you have
on your computer already, even if you are downloading the same version
as you already have.tim2679
MemberYou can access chat using the messenger using the following.
In the main messenger menu at the top select in this order.Messenger > Yahoo! Chat > Join Room
They use to let you login using chat2 by going to chat.yahoo.com
not sure if they are still allowing you to enter chat that way.tim2679
MemberWhat version of Yahoo Messenger are you using ?
tim2679
MemberNo, no one can see you IP address. Remember Yahoo acts as a middle man, for example, when you send an PM it goes to the Yahoo Server, then the Yahoo Server sends it to the person you are sending the message to.
More or less if someone did try to look for IP’s in a chat room or whatever
all the would get is the IP of the Yahoo Server.The only way someone can get your IP is if you have a direct connection
with them. aka Webcam, File Transfer, using the Call feature, ect. -
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